The GRT guys wallow through the aftermath of the Arkansas loss, wonder exactly where we are and where we are going, and manage to have a bit of fun along the way.
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Friends, we got problems, and our weekly reassessment of expected win totals is likely to reflect the extent of those problems. You can get your own expected win total (and have your number used in our community results) using the GRT Expected Win Total Machine.
Opponent | Preseason | W7 | W8 | W9 | W10 |
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SC | TN -21.9 | ||||
MO | TN -10.1 | ||||
GA | GA -26.2 | ||||
KY | KY -.7 | ||||
AL | AL -27.9 | AL -25.1 | |||
AR | TN -14.1 | AR -.2 | AR -4.1 | TN -.5 | |
TAMU | TAMU -6.4 | TN -1 | TAMU -3.7 | TAMU -9.7 | TAMU -29.8 |
AUB | AUB -9.6 | AUB -4.8 | AUB -6.9 | AUB -18.7 | AUB -15.7 |
VAN | TN -9.4 | TN -21 | TN -21.2 | TN -21 | TN -24 |
FL | FL -22.8 | FL -13.6 | FL -14.4 | FL -21.8 | FL -24.9 |
Those are unhappy predictions. Two-to-four touchdown underdogs in three of the last four games. Woo.
My expected win total for this season is now 2.95.
Here’s how I’ve tracked this season:
Details: I have Florida at 5%, Texas A&M and Auburn both at 15%, and Vanderbilt at 60%.
Hereโs a visual:
Current record: 2-4, 4th in the SEC East
Date | Opponent | Result | Score |
Sat, Sep 26 | @ South Carolina | W | 31-27 |
Sat, Oct 3 | vs Missouri | W | 35-12 |
Sat, Oct 10 | @ 3 Georgia | L | 44-21 |
Sat, Oct 17 | vs Kentucky | L | 34-7 |
Sat, Oct 24 | vs 2 Alabama | L | 48-17 |
Sat, Nov 7 | @ Arkansas | L | 24-13 |
Sat, Nov 21 | @ 23 Auburn | L | 30-17 |
Sat, Dec 5 | vs 6 Florida | ||
Sat, Dec 12 | vs 5 Texas A&M | ||
Sat, Dec 19 | @ Vanderbilt (??) |
Somehow, the loss to Arkansas did more damage to my expectations than I figured a toss-up game could. I think it’s that the first half made me believe they were who I thought they were and the second half made everybody forget everything. Apart from Vanderbilt, Arkansas should have been the easiest out in the back half of the season, and an almost unanimous toss-up turned from a brewing confidence-builder to an 11-point loss in the span of 15 minutes. The Vols can still find themselves, but if they don’t, they’re in real trouble most of the rest of the way.
Bottom line for me, their own inconsistency is reducing expectations pretty significantly.
Current record: 5-1, 2nd in the SEC West
Date | Opponent | Result | Score |
Sat, Sep 26 | vs Vanderbilt | W | 17-12 |
Sat, Oct 3 | @ 2 Alabama | L | 52-24 |
Sat, Oct 10 | vs 4 Florida | W | 41-38 |
Sat, Oct 17 | @ Mississippi State | W | 28-14 |
Sat, Oct 31 | vs Arkansas | W | 42-31 |
Sat, Nov 7 | @ South Carolina | W | 48-3 |
Sat, Nov 21 | vs Ole Miss | Postponed | |
Sat, Nov 28 | vs LSU | W | 20-7 |
Sat, Dec 5 | @ 22 Auburn | ||
Sat, Dec 12 | @ Tennessee |
The Aggies made it look easy against the Gamecocks, so we’re going to have to double dip on this one, docking the Vols 10% and crediting A&M 10%. This one’s moving from 35% to 15% for me.
Current record: 4-2, 3rd in the SEC West
Date | Opponent | Result | Score |
Sat, Sep 26 | vs 23 Kentucky | W | 29-13 |
Sat, Oct 3 | @ 4 Georgia | L | 27-6 |
Sat, Oct 10 | vs Arkansas | W | 30-28 |
Sat, Oct 17 | @ South Carolina | L | 30-22 |
Sat, Oct 24 | @ Ole Miss | W | 35-28 |
Sat, Oct 31 | vs LSU | W | 48-11 |
Sat, Nov 21 | vs Tennessee | W | 30-17 |
Sat, Nov 28 | @ 1 Alabama | L | 42-13 |
Sat, Dec 5 | vs 5 Texas A&M | ||
Sat, Dec 12 | @ Mississippi State |
Off this week. I’m moving this game 25% to 15%.
Current record: 0-5, 7th in the SEC East
Date | Opponent | Result | Score |
Sat, Sep 26 | @ 10 Texas A&M | L | 17-12 |
Sat, Oct 3 | vs 20 LSU | L | 41-7 |
Sat, Oct 10 | vs South Carolina | L | 41-7 |
Sat, Oct 31 | vs Ole Miss | L | 54-21 |
Sat, Nov 7 | @ Mississippi State | L | 24-17 |
Sat, Nov 14 | @ Kentucky | L | 38-35 |
Sat, Nov 21 | vs 6 Florida | L | 38-17 |
Sat, Nov 28 | @ Missouri | L | 41-0 |
Sat, Dec 5 | @ 9 Georgia | ||
Sat, Dec 12 | ??? |
Vanderbilt appears to be who we thought they were. But we appear not to be, so I’m moving this one from 80% to 60%.
Current record: 4-1, 1st in the SEC East
Date | Opponent | Result | Score |
Sat, Sep 26 | @ Ole Miss | W | 51-35 |
Sat, Oct 3 | vs South Carolina | W | 38-24 |
Sat, Oct 10 | @ 21 Texas A&M | L | 41-38 |
Sat, Oct 31 | Missouri | W | 41-17 |
Sat, Nov 7 | vs 5 Georgia | W | 44-28 |
Sat, Nov 14 | vs Arkansas | W | 63-35 |
Sat, Nov 21 | @ Vanderbilt | W | 38-17 |
Sat, Nov 28 | vs Kentucky | W | 34-10 |
Sat, Dec 5 | @ Tennessee | ||
Sat, Dec 12 | vs LSU |
I think I have sighed at least 100 times today, no exaggeration. On the bright side, the Vols are going to get an opportunity for a really big win when they play Florida. Examining the empty part of the cup, though, the Gators appear to be the main challenger to Alabama this year, so yeah, it’s really, really unlikely to happen. Awesome. I’m moving this one from 10% to 5%.
Current record: 2-4, 5th in the SEC East
Date | Opponent | Result | Score |
Sat, Sep 26 | vs 16 Tennessee | L | 31-27 |
Sat, Oct 3 | @ 3 Florida | L | 38-24 |
Sat, Oct 10 | @ Vanderbilt | W | 41-7 |
Sat, Oct 17 | vs Auburn | W | 30-22 |
Sat, Oct 24 | @ LSU | L | 52-24 |
Sat, Nov 7 | vs 7 Texas A&M | L | 48-3 |
Sat, Nov 14 | @ Ole Miss | L | 59-42 |
Sat, Nov 21 | vs Missouri | L | 17-10 |
Sat, Nov 28 | vs 9 Georgia | L | 45-16 |
Sat, Dec 5 | @ Kentucky |
Clobbered by the team we’re playing next week. Ugh.
Current record: 2-3, 3rd in the SEC East
Date | Opponent | Result | Score |
Sat, Sep 26 | vs 2 Alabama | L | 38-19 |
Sat, Oct 3 | @ 21 Tennessee | L | 35-12 |
Sat, Oct 10 | @ 17 LSU | W | 45-41 |
Sat, Oct 17 | vs Vanderbilt | Postponed | |
Sat, Oct 24 | vs Kentucky | W | 20-10 |
Sat, Oct 31 | @ 10 Florida | L | 41-17 |
Sat, Nov 14 | vs 5 Georgia | Postponed | |
Sat, Nov 21 | @ South Carolina | W | 17-10 |
Sat, Nov 28 | vs Vanderbilt | W | 41-0 |
Sat, Dec 5 | vs Arkansas | ||
Sat, Dec 12 |
Off this week.
Current record: 4-2, 2nd in the SEC East
Date | Opponent | Result | Score |
Sat, Sep 26 | @ Arkansas | W | 37-10 |
Sat, Oct 3 | vs 7 Auburn | W | 27-6 |
Sat, Oct 10 | vs 14 Tennessee | W | 44-21 |
Sat, Oct 17 | @ 2 Alabama | L | 41-24 |
Sat, Oct 31 | @ Kentucky | W | 14-3 |
Sat, Nov 7 | vs 8 Florida | L | 44-28 |
Sat, Nov 14 | @ Missouri | Postponed | |
Sat, Nov 21 | vs Mississippi State | W | 31-24 |
Sat, Nov 28 | @ South Carolina | W | 45-16 |
Sat, Dec 5 | vs Vanderbilt |
I’m all for seeing another loss on Georgia’s 2020 resume and everything, but if it means the Gators get a win, well, the world can be a hard and cruel place. Also, the Dawgs were down several key defenders, so maybe they just got 2020’d. Also also, we figured in the preseason that the offense would be their undoing, and it looks like maybe it’s turning out that way. It’s just that Stetson Bennett did a good job of hiding that for a few games.
Current record: 2-4, 5th in the SEC East
Date | Opponent | Result | Score |
Sat, Sep 26 | @ 8 Auburn | L | 29-13 |
Sat, Oct 3 | vs Ole Miss | L | 42-41 (OT) |
Sat, Oct 10 | vs Mississippi State | W | 24-2 |
Sat, Oct 17 | @ Tennessee | W | 34-7 |
Sat, Oct 24 | @ Missouri | L | 20-10 |
Sat, Oct 31 | vs 5 Georgia | L | 14-3 |
Sat, Nov 14 | vs Vanderbilt | W | 38-35 |
Sat, Nov 21 | @ 1 Alabama | L | 63-3 |
Sat, Nov 28 | @ 6 Florida | L | 34-10 |
Sat, Dec 5 | vs South Carolina |
Also off this week.
Current record: 6-0, 1st in the SEC West
Date | Opponent | Result | Score |
Sat, Sep 26 | @ Missouri | W | 38-19 |
Sat, Oct 3 | vs 13 Texas A&M | W | 52-24 |
Sat, Oct 10 | @ Ole Miss | W | 63-48 |
Sat, Oct 17 | vs 3 Georgia | W | 41-24 |
Sat, Oct 24 | @ Tennessee | W | 48-17 |
Sat, Oct 31 | vs Mississippi State | W | 41-0 |
Sat, Nov 14 | @ LSU | Postponed | |
Sat, Nov 21 | vs Kentucky | W | 63-3 |
Sat, Nov 28 | vs 22 Auburn | W | 42-13 |
Sat, Dec 5 | @ Arkansas |
Off.
Current record: 3-3, 4th in the SEC West
Date | Opponent | Result | Score |
Sat, Sep 26 | vs 4 Georgia | L | 37-10 |
Sat, Oct 3 | @ 16 Mississippi State | W | 21-14 |
Sat, Oct 10 | @ 13 Auburn | L | 30-28 |
Sat, Oct 17 | vs Ole Miss | W | 33-21 |
Sat, Oct 31 | @ 8 Texas A&M | L | 42-31 |
Sat, Nov 7 | vs Tennessee | W | 24-13 |
Sat, Nov 14 | @ 6 Florida | L | 63-35 |
Sat, Nov 21 | vs LSU | L | 27-24 |
Sat, Dec 5 | @ Missouri |
Should be 4-2 and tied with Auburn (but with a head-to-head tiebreaker) for 3rd in the West.
One more: Sigh.
Don’t forget to submit your own ballot to the GRT Win Total Machine.
. . . make it this, from 247Sports:
Congratulations to tmfountain14, who finished first in Week 10 of the 2020 GRT Pick ‘Em with an impressive record of 17-2 and 179 confidence points.
Here are the full results for this week:
Rank | Player | W-L | Points | Tiebreaker |
---|---|---|---|---|
1 | tmfountain14 | 17-2 | 179 | 14-17 |
2 | DinnerJacket | 15-4 | 158 | 23-24 |
3 | patmd | 15-4 | 157 | 24-42 |
4 | Hunters Horrible Picks | 14-5 | 155 | 15-17 |
5 | ga26engr | 16-3 | 154 | 17-27 |
6 | Raven17 | 14-5 | 153 | 31-21 |
7 | boro wvvol | 14-5 | 151 | 21-17 |
8 | GeorgeMonkey | 15-4 | 150 | 24-28** |
8 | vols95 | 13-6 | 150 | 21-21 |
10 | keeps corn in a jar | 13-6 | 149 | 14-21 |
11 | Jahiegel | 15-4 | 148 | 26-27** |
11 | LuckyGuess | 13-6 | 148 | 34-29 |
13 | Hjohn | 14-5 | 147 | 21-20** |
13 | jfarrar90 | 14-5 | 147 | 27-24 |
15 | ChuckieTVol | 12-7 | 146 | 27-13 |
16 | TennRebel | 14-5 | 145 | 17-24** |
16 | tcarroll90 | 16-3 | 145 | 20-28 |
16 | PAVolFan | 14-5 | 145 | 28-21 |
19 | ltvol99 | 14-5 | 144 | 28-27** |
19 | cnyvol | 12-7 | 144 | 30-27 |
21 | MariettaVol1 | 12-7 | 143 | 27-25** |
21 | ddayvolsfan | 14-5 | 143 | 31-28 |
21 | Bulldog 85 | 11-8 | 143 | 0-0 |
24 | Tennmark | 13-6 | 142 | 27-24 |
25 | birdjam | 11-8 | 141 | 24-22 |
26 | Joel @ GRT | 13-6 | 140 | 28-27 |
27 | Anaconda | 12-7 | 138 | 28-25 |
28 | spartans100 | 11-8 | 136 | 28-24 |
29 | Timbuktu126 | 11-8 | 132 | 15-12 |
30 | Neil | 10-9 | 130 | 28-24 |
31 | Krusher | 11-8 | 129 | 28-24 |
32 | BlountVols | 12-7 | 126 | 32-28** |
32 | joeb_1 | 9-10 | 126 | 34-31 |
32 | Knottfair | 13-6 | 126 | 270-24 |
35 | crafdog | 10-9 | 121 | 0-0 |
36 | rollervol | 14-5 | 120 | 27-24** |
36 | Will Shelton | 11-8 | 120 | 17-6 |
38 | PensacolaVolFan | 14-5 | 113 | 20-10 |
39 | C_hawkfan | 12-7 | 112 | 27-24 |
40 | Jayyyy | 6-13 | 95 | 31-30 |
41 | memphispete | 0-19 | 94 | - |
41 | Jackson Irwin | 0-19 | 94 | - |
41 | ctull | 0-19 | 94 | - |
41 | TennVol95 in 3D! | 0-19 | 94 | - |
41 | shensle6 | 0-19 | 94 | - |
41 | volfan28 | 0-19 | 94 | - |
41 | Fowler877 | 0-19 | 94 | - |
41 | OriginalVol1814 | 0-19 | 94 | - |
41 | HOTTUB | 0-19 | 94 | - |
41 | GasMan | 0-19 | 94 | - |
41 | Wilk21 | 0-19 | 94 | - |
41 | HUTCH | 0-19 | 94 | - |
41 | ed75 | 0-19 | 94 | - |
41 | Picks of Someone | 0-19 | 94 | - |
41 | rsbrooks25 | 0-19 | 94 | - |
41 | Rossboro | 0-19 | 94 | - |
Birdjam still remains in the lead for the season now with 1,093 points and a record of 108-47. Here’s the full list:
Rank | Player | W-L | Points | Tiebreaker |
---|---|---|---|---|
1 | birdjam | 108-47 | 69.68 | 1093 |
2 | LuckyGuess | 104-51 | 67.10 | 1084 |
3 | tmfountain14 | 104-51 | 67.10 | 1083 |
3 | Anaconda | 103-52 | 66.45 | 1083 |
5 | PAVolFan | 107-48 | 69.03 | 1078 |
6 | jfarrar90 | 104-51 | 67.10 | 1077 |
7 | GeorgeMonkey | 106-49 | 68.39 | 1073 |
8 | Jahiegel | 101-54 | 65.16 | 1066 |
9 | keeps corn in a jar | 97-58 | 62.58 | 1062 |
10 | ChuckieTVol | 99-56 | 63.87 | 1061 |
11 | BlountVols | 105-50 | 67.74 | 1056 |
12 | TennRebel | 100-55 | 64.52 | 1053 |
12 | Hunters Horrible Picks | 102-53 | 65.81 | 1053 |
14 | spartans100 | 102-53 | 65.81 | 1052 |
15 | Hjohn | 103-52 | 66.45 | 1051 |
16 | crafdog | 108-47 | 69.68 | 1049 |
17 | Bulldog 85 | 96-59 | 61.94 | 1045 |
18 | DinnerJacket | 101-54 | 65.16 | 1041 |
19 | Tennmark | 95-60 | 61.29 | 1040 |
19 | Raven17 | 100-55 | 64.52 | 1040 |
21 | joeb_1 | 92-63 | 59.35 | 1038 |
22 | MariettaVol1 | 91-64 | 58.71 | 1037 |
23 | boro wvvol | 93-62 | 60.00 | 1031 |
24 | Krusher | 100-55 | 64.52 | 1030 |
25 | cnyvol | 93-62 | 60.00 | 1026 |
26 | Joel @ GRT | 99-56 | 63.87 | 1022 |
27 | Knottfair | 100-55 | 64.52 | 1013 |
28 | Jayyyy | 84-71 | 54.19 | 1010 |
29 | tcarroll90 | 96-59 | 61.94 | 1000 |
30 | ltvol99 | 101-54 | 65.16 | 992 |
31 | PensacolaVolFan | 106-49 | 68.39 | 990 |
32 | Timbuktu126 | 99-56 | 63.87 | 987 |
33 | ga26engr | 102-53 | 65.81 | 983 |
34 | patmd | 107-48 | 69.03 | 982 |
35 | Will Shelton | 85-70 | 54.84 | 966 |
36 | C_hawkfan | 91-64 | 58.71 | 927 |
37 | ddayvolsfan | 101-54 | 65.16 | 913 |
38 | Neil | 58-97 | 37.42 | 890 |
39 | rollervol | 97-58 | 62.58 | 881 |
40 | volfan28 | 78-77 | 50.32 | 825 |
41 | vols95 | 59-96 | 38.06 | 795 |
42 | Picks of Someone | 46-109 | 29.68 | 736 |
43 | HUTCH | 18-137 | 11.61 | 660 |
44 | Fowler877 | 30-125 | 19.35 | 644 |
45 | memphispete | 20-135 | 12.90 | 608 |
46 | Wilk21 | 25-130 | 16.13 | 605 |
47 | TennVol95 in 3D! | 33-122 | 21.29 | 598 |
48 | HOTTUB | 3-152 | 1.94 | 545 |
48 | ed75 | 3-152 | 1.94 | 545 |
48 | ctull | 3-152 | 1.94 | 545 |
51 | Jackson Irwin | 1-154 | 0.65 | 540 |
52 | rsbrooks25 | 0-155 | 0.00 | 536 |
52 | GasMan | 0-155 | 0.00 | 536 |
52 | shensle6 | 0-155 | 0.00 | 536 |
52 | OriginalVol1814 | 0-155 | 0.00 | 536 |
56 | Rossboro | 0-155 | 0.00 | 296 |
Here’s the play-by-play for this week’s Guessing Game.
Q: Arkansas is a turnover glutton. Tennessee has been overly charitable. How many turnovers do the Vols give up against Arkansas? (30-50 points available)
A: 2 (30 points) (Harrison Bailey threw two interceptions, both on desperation plays, which shouldn’t be counted against him but do count in the Guessing Game.)
These folks get 40 points for the right answer:
Mushrooms (30 points): Harley and Joel Hollingsworth
Bananas (-30 points): hounddog3 got both of these.
Blue shells and bolts:
Top 10 after Round 1:
Q: Who leads at the half? (50 points available)
A: Tennessee (50 points) (the Vols led 13-0)
These players get 50 points for getting this one right:
Mushrooms (30 points): JWheel101 and Will Shelton
Bananas (-30 points):ย Mitchell K and HixsonVol
Blue shells and bolts:
Top 10 after Round 2:
Q: Who wins and by how much? (20 – 100 points available)
A: Hogs, by 11-14 (80 points) (Arkansas won, 24-13)
We must be one sorry bunch of disappointed fans, as no one got this right.
Mushrooms (30 points): Isaac Bishop and Sam Hensley
Bananas (-30 points): Evan and Jayyyy
Blue shells and bolts:
Rank | Player | Points |
---|---|---|
1 | JWheel101 | 320 |
2 | Josh Farrar | 310 |
3 | Isaac Bishop | 310 |
4 | LTVol99 | 280 |
5 | Joel Hollingsworth | 280 |
6 | Sam Hensley | 250 |
7 | Harley | 240 |
8 | Will Shelton | 240 |
9 | Raven17 | 200 |
10 | Mitchell K | 170 |
11 | GtownRockyTop | 150 |
12 | Evan | 123 |
13 | HixsonVol | 120 |
14 | hounddog3 | 100 |
15 | Jayyyy | 80 |
It’s Gameday on Rocky Top, and the Tennessee Volunteers — currently 2-3 and tied with Missouri and South Carolina for third in the SEC East — take on the Arkansas Razorbacks, also 2-3 on the season. Here’s the Gameday Gameplan for Tennessee fans. Where and when to find the Tennessee-Arkansas game on TV, what other games to watch as well, and what to listen to and read as you wait for kickoff.
Here are the particulars for today’s Tennessee game:
With the Pac-12 and MAC finally joining the fray, it’s a full slate of college football today, including the Vols-Hogs game this evening and the Cocktail Party at 3:30.
Here’s our list of games to watch today, curated just for Big Orange fans:
Away | Home | Time | TV | How | Why |
NOON | |||||
#13 Michigan | #17 Indiana | 12:00 PM | FS1 | Live | Top 25 matchup |
AFTERNOON | |||||
#10 Florida | #5 Georgia | 3:30 PM | CBS | Live | Top 10 SEC East matchup |
Vanderbilt | Mississippi State | 4:00 PM | SECN | DVR/ignore | Future Vols' opponent |
EVENING | |||||
Tennessee | Arkansas | 7:30 PM | SECN | Live | GO VOLS! |
#8 Texas A&M | South Carolina | 7:00 PM | ESPN | DVR | Next Vols' opponent |
#1 Clemson | #4 Notre Dame | 7:30 PM | NBC | DVR/Check in | Top 5 ACC matchup |
11/4/20 | Eastern Michigan | Kent State | 6:00 PM | ESPN+ |
---|---|---|---|---|
11/4/20 | Western Michigan | Akron | 6:00 PM | ESPN3 |
11/4/20 | Buffalo | Northern Illinois | 7:00 PM | ESPN2 |
11/4/20 | Ohio | Central Michigan | 7:00 PM | ESPN |
11/4/20 | Ball State | Miami (OH) | 7:00 PM | CBSSN |
11/4/20 | Bowling Green | Toledo | 8:00 PM | ESPNU |
11/5/20 | Utah State | Nevada | 7:00 PM | FS1 |
11/5/20 | Wyoming | Colorado State | 9:00 PM | CBSSN |
11/6/20 | #12 Miami | NC State | 7:30 PM | ESPN |
11/6/20 | San Josรฉ State | San Diego State | 9:00 PM | CBSSN |
11/6/20 | #11 BYU | #25 Boise State | 9:45 PM | FS1 |
11/7/20 | Rutgers | #3 Ohio State | 7:30 PM | BTN |
11/7/20 | #6 Oklahoma State | #16 Kansas State | 4:00 PM | FOX |
11/7/20 | #13 Michigan | #17 Indiana | 12:00 PM | FS1 |
11/7/20 | Maryland | #18 Penn State | 3:30 PM | BTN |
11/7/20 | Baylor | #23 Iowa State | 7:00 PM | FS1 |
11/7/20 | Nebraska | Northwestern | 12:00 PM | BTN |
11/7/20 | Minnesota | Illinois | 3:30 PM | BTN |
11/7/20 | Air Force | Army | 11:30 AM | CBS |
11/7/20 | #15 North Carolina | Duke | 12:00 PM | ESPN2 |
11/7/20 | Arizona State | #21 USC | 12:00 PM | FOX |
11/7/20 | #22 SMU | Temple | 12:00 PM | ESPN+ |
11/7/20 | South Florida | Memphis | 12:00 PM | ESPN+ |
11/7/20 | Tulane | East Carolina | 12:00 PM | ESPN+ |
11/7/20 | Tulsa | Navy | 12:00 PM | CBSSN |
11/7/20 | Michigan State | Iowa | 12:00 PM | ESPN |
11/7/20 | West Virginia | Texas | 12:00 PM | ABC |
11/7/20 | UL Monroe | Georgia State | 12:00 PM | ESPN3 |
11/7/20 | Liberty | Virginia Tech | 12:00 PM | ACCN |
11/7/20 | Arkansas State | Louisiana | 12:00 PM | ESPNU |
11/7/20 | Troy | Georgia Southern | 1:00 PM | ESPN3 |
11/7/20 | Boston College | Syracuse | 2:00 PM | ESPN3 |
11/7/20 | UMass | #19 Marshall | 2:30 PM | ESPN+ |
11/7/20 | North Alabama | Southern Mississippi | 3:00 PM | ESPN3 |
11/7/20 | Appalachian State | Texas State | 3:00 PM | ESPN+ |
11/7/20 | #10 Florida | #5 Georgia | 3:30 PM | CBS |
11/7/20 | Houston | #7 Cincinnati | 3:30 PM | ESPN |
11/7/20 | Purdue | #9 Wisconsin | CANCELED | |
11/7/20 | Kansas | #24 Oklahoma | 3:30 PM | ESPN2 |
11/7/20 | UTSA | Rice | 3:30 PM | ESPN3 |
11/7/20 | Charlotte | Middle Tennessee | 3:30 PM | ESPN+ |
11/7/20 | Texas Tech | TCU | 3:30 PM | |
11/7/20 | Fresno State | UNLV | 3:30 PM | CBSSN |
11/7/20 | Arizona | Utah | 4:00 PM | ESPNU |
11/7/20 | Vanderbilt | Mississippi State | 4:00 PM | SECN |
11/7/20 | Florida International | UTEP | CANCELED | |
11/7/20 | Pittsburgh | Florida State | 4:00 PM | ACCN |
11/7/20 | Western Kentucky | Florida Atlantic | 6:00 PM | |
11/7/20 | #8 Texas A&M | South Carolina | 7:00 PM | ESPN |
11/7/20 | Louisiana Tech | North Texas | 7:00 PM | CBSSN |
11/7/20 | UCLA | Colorado | 7:00 PM | ESPN2 |
11/7/20 | #1 Clemson | #4 Notre Dame | 7:30 PM | NBC |
11/7/20 | Stanford | #14 Oregon | 7:30 PM | ABC |
11/7/20 | Tennessee | Arkansas | 7:30 PM | SECN |
11/7/20 | South Alabama | #20 Coastal Carolina | 8:00 PM | ESPNU |
11/7/20 | Louisville | Virginia | 8:00 PM | ACCN |
11/7/20 | Washington State | Oregon State | 10:30 PM | FS1 |
11/7/20 | Washington | California | 10:30 PM | ESPN |
11/7/20 | New Mexico | Hawai'i | 11:00 PM | |
Date | Away | Home | Time | TV |
While you’re waiting for the games to begin, make sure that you submit your answers to the GRT Guessing Game questions and update your picks for the GRT Pick ‘Em.
Here’s Will’s regular spot on WNML’s Sports 180 with Josh Ward and Heather Harrington.
To catch up on your pre-game reading, have a look at our game preview posts from earlier this week:
Go Vols!
For two weeks, we’ve talked about the question of “closing the gap.” What’s the best way to measure that? When it comes on the heels of another big loss to Alabama, the answer is talent.
There are plenty of options – recruiting rankings, draft picks, etc. – but let’s take a look at actual talent on the roster. For that, we turn to the team talent rankings at 247 Sports. I like these not only for giving a look at the entire roster, but because they include transfers and, obviously, don’t count those leaving early for the NFL, which can give a boost to recruiting rankings a year too long.
In team talent, you’ll find a common theme from recruiting: the Vols are 15th in the nation in talent…and seventh in the SEC. But far more important than the ranking is the rating: it’s not just who’s ahead of you, but how far. And looking at the six available years of team talent data tells us quite a bit about the hopes for Tennessee’s past, present, and future.
We use blue chip ratio a lot in recruiting: the percentage of four-and-five-stars per class, noting that national champions always hit 50+%. That’s a number, as you’ll see, the Vols flirt with quite often, and heavily so in Jeremy Pruitt’s classes. But when you’re seventh in the SEC in talent, the conversation for Tennessee can’t just be about getting to 50%.
I used the team talent rankings to calculate a blue chip ratio for the entire roster (the percentage of four-and-five-stars on your roster to three-four-and-five stars). Here’s where Tennessee stands over the last six years:
(If the tables look weird, turn your phone sideways)
2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2019 | 2020 | |
Tennessee | 47.20% | 49.30% | 39.50% | 43.80% | 43.40% | 42.40% |
This makes sense: the Vols had their best teams in 2015 and 2016, infused with the talent from Butch Jones’ 2014 and 2015 recruiting classes. But it dropped off sharply in 2017, even before all the losses, in part due to signing only five blue chip players that February.
Jeremy Pruitt’s first three teams have featured almost identical levels of talent, but right now it skews much younger. Of Tennessee’s 22 seniors, including that 2017 recruiting class, only seven were blue chip recruits: Jordan Allen, Ty Chandler, Jarrett Guarantano, Brandon Kennedy, Trey Smith, Aubrey Solomon, and Savion Williams. The entire calculation will change given the eligibility rules for this season, but in a normal year the Vols would trade off those graduating with the incoming 2021 recruiting class, which currently features 12 blue chip commits and 14 three-stars. If the current class stayed exactly the same, it would give Tennessee a team talent blue chip ratio of 46.1% for next season, the Vols’ best since 2015-16.
So yes, overall it’s going in the right direction and gaps are being closed; next season the Vols should have an overall blue chip level comparable to the best we’ve seen in the post-Fulmer era.
Here’s the problem:
2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2019 | 2020 | |
Georgia | 51.90% | 52.50% | 63.50% | 72.70% | 70.20% | 78.80% |
Florida | 36.80% | 32.40% | 35.40% | 44.90% | 52.70% | 58.50% |
Tennessee | 47.20% | 49.30% | 39.50% | 43.80% | 43.40% | 42.40% |
The Vols are getting closer to the window. But getting through it will be much more difficult now.
In 2015-16, not only were the Vols stocked with both talent and experience to make a move, but Florida and Georgia were unstable. 2015 was Mark Richt’s last year and Jim McElwain’s first, with the Gators in particular low on talent from the end of the Will Muschamp era. McElwain won two division titles but did nothing to change that. Meanwhile Georgia, already a consistent player in the 50+% blue chip ratio game, significantly upped the ante under Kirby Smart.
You can throw out those Richt vs Smart graphics all you want through their first however many games. But the Georgia teams Tennessee is trying to beat right now are way, way more talented than the Richt teams we saw at the end of his tenure.
And Florida is trending that direction as well.
For all of Tennessee’s strengths, some of its greatest weaknesses post-peak have involved bad timing, whether self-inflicted or otherwise. When Florida and Georgia have been vulnerable, the Vols have failed to capitalize:
And of course, there’s 2015-16. Though the Vols went 3-1 against Florida and Georgia those two years, the damage was done in failing to make the necessary progress overall. Tennessee closed the gap entirely, but getting to 9-4 twice was never going to be enough to get through the window. Tennessee’s recruiting under Butch Jones fell off before he was fired for losing games. The losses to Oklahoma and Florida in 2015 remain the most consequential outcomes for Tennessee in the post-Fulmer era: the Vols built momentum and talent, but in failing to sustain the one lost the other. Florida and Georgia were vulnerable, but the Vols didn’t get to Atlanta, didn’t get through the window even though it was wide open, and will find it much more difficult now. In all those moments of opportunity in the last 18 years, rarely have Florida and Georgia had stability and excellence at head coach the way they do now under Dan Mullen and Kirby Smart. I’ll give you Richt and Meyer from 2006-08, but Georgia went 8-5 in 2009.
And here’s the thing: Tennessee still won the SEC East in 2007! We used to talk about “win the SEC East every three years” like it was settling, as if Florida and/or Georgia was always going to struggle. But when the Dawgs and Gators have it together – and they do now – Tennessee is doing a good job just to get in the fight. Georgia still has the talent advantage on both, certainly. But the Vols were two-touchdown underdogs in Athens last month. Florida is +3.5 on Saturday.
Of course, here’s our other problem, unique to us in the SEC East:
2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2019 | 2020 | |
Alabama | 77.70% | 75.30% | 84.50% | 77.70% | 84.50% | 84.30% |
Georgia | 51.90% | 52.50% | 63.50% | 72.70% | 70.20% | 78.80% |
Florida | 36.80% | 32.40% | 35.40% | 44.90% | 52.70% | 58.50% |
Tennessee | 47.20% | 49.30% | 39.50% | 43.80% | 43.40% | 42.40% |
Gross.
In the first three of those missed opportunity years for Tennessee, Alabama was also unstable: Dennis Franchione left a mess after 2002, Mike Shula was doing what we called a good job at the time in 2005, and in 2010 Alabama wasn’t the monster we know and love just yet, 10-3 with a loss to South Carolina.
By 2015-16 Alabama was the Bama we know and hate, though the Vols had a shot in 2015. But also by then we weren’t measuring success only by the pursuit of national championships ourselves. That’s certainly still true today. So yeah, it’s going to be hard for Tennessee to get to Atlanta when the Vols play Alabama every year and Florida and Georgia don’t. But even if the schedule changed, Tennessee has to close the gap in its own division at a time when the window of opportunity to beat Florida and Georgia is tighter than it’s been at any point in the last decade.
So yes, we shouldn’t be worried about trying to catch Bama right now, unless you’d like to be a crazy person. But here’s one thing that may surprise you: from Saban’s year two in 2008 to the present, Alabama only wins the SEC West 58% of the time. Tennessee shouldn’t worry about being Alabama, but it would certainly be nice to be Auburn or LSU.
But…
2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2019 | 2020 | |
Alabama | 77.70% | 75.30% | 84.50% | 77.70% | 84.50% | 84.30% |
Georgia | 51.90% | 52.50% | 63.50% | 72.70% | 70.20% | 78.80% |
LSU | 66.70% | 69.20% | 63.40% | 64.10% | 61.40% | 61.30% |
Florida | 36.80% | 32.40% | 35.40% | 44.90% | 52.70% | 58.50% |
Auburn | 57.10% | 58.90% | 60% | 56.40% | 58.20% | 57.30% |
Tennessee | 47.20% | 49.30% | 39.50% | 43.80% | 43.40% | 42.40% |
To get there, the Vols need to start thinking of recruiting success as not just hitting 50% in blue chip ratio, but 60%. To get there, the Vols are going to have to win more games. Chickens, eggs, etc.
It’s also been true for Auburn and LSU that, to beat Alabama to Atlanta, you either need a Heisman quarterback (Cam Newton, Joe Burrow), extreme weirdness (four missed field goals, Kick Six), or whatever happened in the Iron Bowl in 2017…when Alabama still won the national championship, same as in 2011.
We often think of the SEC as these six traditional powers. But the program that’s actually been the best comparison to Tennessee these last six years is…
2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2019 | 2020 | |
Alabama | 77.70% | 75.30% | 84.50% | 77.70% | 84.50% | 84.30% |
Georgia | 51.90% | 52.50% | 63.50% | 72.70% | 70.20% | 78.80% |
LSU | 66.70% | 69.20% | 63.40% | 64.10% | 61.40% | 61.30% |
Florida | 36.80% | 32.40% | 35.40% | 44.90% | 52.70% | 58.50% |
Auburn | 57.10% | 58.90% | 60% | 56.40% | 58.20% | 57.30% |
Texas A&M | 53.50% | 50.90% | 41% | 41.20% | 50.60% | 53.20% |
Tennessee | 47.20% | 49.30% | 39.50% | 43.80% | 43.40% | 42.40% |
You’ll note that Kevin Sumlin and Jimbo Fisher aren’t recruiting much differently from each other. Sumlin went 11-2 with a Heisman quarterback in 2012. They went 9-4 with seven point losses to two top five teams the next year, Johnny Football’s last. After that, as you know: three straight 8-5’s, followed by a 7-5 and a coaching change. Jimbo’s first two years: 9-4, 8-5.
Without the Heisman quarterback, Texas A&M is 2-4 against Auburn, 1-5 against LSU, and winless against Alabama.
Le’ts give Sumlin a pass on losing close games to the great teams from the state of Mississippi in 2014. But in addition to struggles against traditional powers, they also lost to #24 Ole Miss and Louisville in 2015, to unranked teams from the Magnolia State and Kansas State in 2016, and famously blew an enormous lead to UCLA to open the 2017 season before losing to Dan Mullen’s unranked Bulldogs again.
This is the plight of A&M under Sumlin without the Heisman QB: it’s not just about not catching Alabama, it’s 3-9 against Auburn and LSU…and also not being good/talented enough to create comfortable separation from the rest of the league.
Now, perhaps Jimbo is good enough to make up that difference; we’re about to find out. The Aggies lost a close game to Georgia last season, and just beat the Gators last month. Of his ten losses at A&M, only one – at Mississippi State in 2018 – was to an unranked, non-traditional power. And, of course, eight of the others were to Top 10 teams. If Jimbo earns them real progress, A&M can make the leap – not to Bama, but to Auburn and LSU. And though they may go through the Vols next week to prove that point, overall it would be good news for the kind of argument Jeremy Pruitt is trying to build here too.
Here’s the entire league for reference:
2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2019 | 2020 | |
Alabama | 77.70% | 75.30% | 84.50% | 77.70% | 84.50% | 84.30% |
Georgia | 51.90% | 52.50% | 63.50% | 72.70% | 70.20% | 78.80% |
LSU | 66.70% | 69.20% | 63.40% | 64.10% | 61.40% | 61.30% |
Florida | 36.80% | 32.40% | 35.40% | 44.90% | 52.70% | 58.50% |
Auburn | 57.10% | 58.90% | 60% | 56.40% | 58.20% | 57.30% |
Texas A&M | 53.50% | 50.90% | 41% | 41.20% | 50.60% | 53.20% |
Tennessee | 47.20% | 49.30% | 39.50% | 43.80% | 43.40% | 42.40% |
South Carolina | 31.40% | 30% | 25.70% | 32.90% | 31.60% | 33.80% |
Arkansas | 23.30% | 24% | 26.20% | 20.50% | 25.30% | 25.60% |
Kentucky | 17.20% | 15.10% | 20% | 18.20% | 18.90% | 23.80% |
Ole Miss | 32.80% | 38.70% | 35.10% | 23.90% | 22.80% | 23.30% |
Mississippi St | 20% | 18.30% | 21.90% | 27.80% | 27.20% | 22.90% |
Missouri | 12.20% | 13.40% | 10% | 7.80% | 9.90% | 9.60% |
Vanderbilt | 10.10% | 10.80% | 12.20% | 11.60% | 6.90% | 5.60% |
So this is Tennessee at the present: the lowest team in the top half of the league, trying to gain ground while its three biggest rivals are on fire. But not so much better than most of the rest of the league – including Kentucky and Arkansas – to expect victory outright. As we’ve said, turn it over three straight drives and get two ran back for touchdowns, and Kentucky ain’t the only team in this league that will blow you out. And while it might be of comfort to see Vanderbilt back in the basement by themselves, Kentucky has increased its talent level in a way that suggests they’re not going back down there with them.
Tennessee is making progress, no doubt. The Vols are closing the gap. But when it comes to Tennessee’s biggest rivals, the window of opportunity is tighter than we’ve seen it in the last decade. So yes, we’re closer to the window. But right now, it’s going to be harder to squeeze through.
The best way to get there is to get better players, which is a path Tennessee is on. To do that, the Vols need to win games. Momentum is a real and dangerous thing with a long lifespan. And that, for a thousand reasons, makes this date with Arkansas of great importance. The Vols will get their chance to test themselves against teams that don’t have an 80% blue chip roster in the second half of this season. But before we can get to A&M, Auburn, and Florida, we need to get past Arkansas. Tennessee is making progress, but nothing will be easy…including tomorrow night.
It’s Friday before Gameday, and that means it’s time for the Gameday on Rocky Top Guessing Game. If you’ve played before, you know the deal, and you can skip to the questions below. If not, catch up here.
Good luck!
You hear a lot about a team’s offense being on- or off-schedule. It’s a substitute metaphor for whether the team is behind or ahead of the chains. In other words, it’s a shorthand description of the odds the offense is going to be able to keep possession of the ball given the particular down-and-distance facing the offense at the time.
It’s easier for an offense to be successful when it is on-schedule. Conversely, one of the main symptoms of a struggling offense is being off-schedule too often.
With that in mind, I wanted to see just how often the Vols’ offense is off-schedule and how often it is on-schedule. Here’s what I found, using the following criteria:
The Vols’ offense has lined up 395 times so far this season. Of those plays, slightly more than half of them have been off-schedule or behind-the-chain plays where the offense is facing more than an optimal yards-to-gain to earn a first down.
At this point, I do not have data from any other teams with which to compare, so it’s unclear whether or just how bad this might be. I suspect it’s pretty bad.
And here’s why that 50/50 total plays on/off schedule chart is probably bad. Even bad teams get a ton of free first-and-10 on-schedule plays because every series starts with one.
This chart suggests that things are going off the rails for the Vols right out of the gate on first down. Only 24% of the Vols’ second downs were on-schedule, meaning 5 yards or less to go. Over 75% were 6 yards or more to go. The current average is second-and-8.
As you might expect, it doesn’t get much better on third down. Over five games, Tennessee’s offense has had only 20 on-schedule third down plays. On average, when the Vols get to third down, they’re facing third-and-7.
I’m currently recording any fourth down as being off-schedule, although I suppose there is an argument for fourth-and-1 being on-schedule. The Vols have had 10 of those. The average yards-to-gain on fourth down, though, is 8.
Again, I can’t say just how bad this is without comparing it to other teams, but it does seem clear that the Vols’ offense is having real problems right out of the gate on first down, averaging only 2 yards.
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