Tennessee’s Best & Worst Surprises, Revisited

Last summer, we looked at some of Tennessee’s best and worst surprises in the post-Fulmer era. We used UT’s performance relative to expectations: how much did Tennessee over-or-under-perform against the spread?

In the negative department, four of Tennessee’s five worst performances against the spread post-Fulmer came from 2017-2020, and each of those happened in Knoxville. There’s a reason it felt the way it did walking out of the stadium.

So then, we wondered how much a good surprise might be worth to Josh Heupel in year one. And that’s exactly what we got: the Vols went to Missouri at +2.5 on October 2, and won 62-24. That 40.5-point over-performance was the best of the post-Fulmer era, topping Tyler Bray’s coming out party in Knoxville against Ole Miss in 2010 (a 52-14 win at -2.5). And it was indeed no fluke: the Vols over-performed the line by 14.5 points the very next week against South Carolina, and off we went.

I don’t know if the Missouri game is your dominant image from 2021. But historically, it might be the most significant outcome from last fall.

So looking forward to 2022, I celebrated two holidays this weekend: Independence Day, and Phil Steele’s arrival. If you love stats and history, I highly recommend his online access, which includes every team’s performance against the spread going back some 40 years. So I spent some time these past few days digging deeper than just the post-Fulmer era on these questions: what are Tennessee’s best and worst performances against the spread? And how high on those lists do the struggles of 2017-2020 and the unexpected delight of 2021 rank?

I went back as far as 1985, using that SEC Championship season as a benchmark for both my lifespan and our modern conversation. We’ll save the best for last, and look at Tennessee’s best performances against the spread later this week. Today, here’s a look at Tennessee’s worst performances against the spread. Can’t appreciate the good without the context!

Tennessee’s 10 Worst Performances Against the Spread, 1985-Present

10. 1993 vs Penn State (Citrus Bowl): favored by 10, lost 31-13

We’ll see more from Heath Shuler’s squad tomorrow, which was so dominant it confused Vegas more than once, then did so again in the finale. This team, still Tennessee’s all-time best in SP+, lost at Florida by seven and tied Alabama in Birmingham. They destroyed everyone else. And then in the bowl game, they took a 10-0 lead…before Penn State closed on a 31-3 run. Ki-Jana Carter ran for 108 of their 209 yards, and the Nittany Lions had their second bowl victory over Tennessee in three years.

9. 1999 Memphis: favored by 30, won 17-16

Beware the orange pants! With everyone expecting bloodshed following the events of the next game on our list, the defending national champion Vols were perhaps still thinking about the loss at Florida the previous week. Tennessee needed a last minute drive to get the win on a very nervous homecoming Saturday. This was my freshman year at UT, and I’m not sure I’ve ever spent more of a game thinking about how bad it would be to lose. But we didn’t!

8. 1996 at Memphis: favored by 26, lost 21-17

Kevin Cobb was down.

6a. 1988 Washington State: favored by 3, lost 52-24

An 0-4 start became 0-5, with Tennessee surrendering more than 600 yards of offense. A Host of Volunteers has a great podcast about the 1988 season, which started 0-6 but ended 5-0, setting the table for Tennessee’s golden era to begin in 1989.

6b. 2017 Georgia: 10-point underdogs, lost 41-0

Tennessee’s run on the national scene from 2015-16 came to a firm halt on this day, dominated by Kirby Smart’s year two Bulldogs in Knoxville.

4a. 1995 Vanderbilt: favored by 32, won 12-7

This line will make more sense when you see what happened in this match-up the previous year. In the 1995 regular season finale, the Vols were ranked fifth, but almost stumbled the week before in Lexington. Against Woody Widenhofer’s year one Commodores, the Vols struggled offensively, but got the job done in a 12-7 victory. (The next two years against Vanderbilt, with some guy named Manning at quarterback: 14-7, 17-10). The Vols struggled into the Citrus Bowl…then beat maybe the most talented team they’ve ever faced from Ohio State.

4b. 2007 at Florida: 7-point underdogs, lost 59-20

An odd game, but not for this rivalry. Florida led 28-13 and was driving for the putaway score in the third quarter, when true freshman Eric Berry picked sophomore Tim Tebow and raced back 96 yards for a score. The Vols got a stop, and got the ball back down 28-20 with five minutes to play in the third quarter. And then, disaster: an Arian Foster fumble was returned for a touchdown, followed by a 99-yard Florida drive, followed by, followed by, followed by. The Gators scored 31 unanswered in the final 20 minutes, giving the Vols their worst margin-of-victory loss of the Fulmer era. Tebow won the Heisman, but the Vols would rebound to win the SEC East.

3. 2019 Georgia State: favored by 24.5, lost 31-23

This game had a chance to play in some real positive history at UT, as the 2019 Vols eventually rebounded from this disaster to finish the year on a six game win streak. The fallout for the Jeremy Pruitt era in 2020 severed that potential chain, leaving this one as one of two notable examples for getting stunned at home by a mid-major, along with…

2. 2008 Wyoming: favored by 27, lost 13-7

The margin of upset is wider here by half a point. But given what was happening at the time, I do think the Georgia State loss hurt more; at this stage in 2008, Fulmer was out, and the team played like it.

1. 2020 Kentucky: favored by 6.5, lost 34-7

Going back through at least 1985, this is Tennessee’s worst performance relative to the spread. The pick sixes in the first half set the tone, and Kentucky’s offense was able to finish things off in the second. The Vols have been blown out by more, for sure, but have never performed so poorly relative to what we thought would happen at kick-off, at least via Vegas standards.

Which is why it’s so amazing to know what they did against Missouri in the opposite direction just one year later. More on that later this week.

Is there a version of realignment that’s best for Tennessee?

It was kind of USC and UCLA, all things considered, to let their news loose on June 30. Nine weeks til kickoff, three weeks til SEC Media Days, baseball season moving into the rear view. It’s great content, thanks!

So now, is there a great version of where all this might be headed for Tennessee?

To me, two questions guide the thought process for the SEC moving forward:

  • Who makes it worth it to continue to expand?
  • How big is too big?

Football takes the lead on all of this, so a lot of what we’ll look at here in terms of size and scope is based on football scheduling. But I think you have to start with, “Would the league be good at 16 no matter what else happens?”

Who makes it worth it to continue to expand?

Back in the early pandemic days when we were uncertain when football would be played again, we had some fun building a 32-team football superconference. The framework we used is the same one making the decisions now, as usual: which programs are most valuable?

From that 2018 list from the Wall Street Journal, we found 13 programs valued at more than $500 million. With Texas and Oklahoma coming to the SEC, each of those 13 programs was already slated for the Big Ten or the SEC…except for Notre Dame. The Irish remain the white whale in this exercise (which makes them even less likely to be on any fantasy SEC radars).

From there, another 19 programs were valued at $250+ million. Those 32 teams represent:

  • 11 of 14 current SEC programs (soon 13 of 16 with Texas/OU)
  • 8 of 14 current Big Ten programs (soon 10 of 16 with USC/UCLA)
  • 4 of 10 current Big 12 programs, with wide disparity between Texas/OU and Kansas State/Oklahoma State
  • 5 of 12 current Pac 12 programs
  • 3 of 14 current ACC programs
  • Notre Dame

If the SEC and Big Ten remain committed to their existing structures, the biggest winners yesterday were Vanderbilt, Rutgers, Missouri, Purdue, etc. Those programs get a seat at the big table they wouldn’t be able to pull up to on their own.

Based on those 2018 Wall Street Journal rankings, after Notre Dame the next two most valuable programs outside the current 32 team SEC & Big Ten are Oregon and Washington. Again, unlikely to be considered for the SEC. As Stewart Mandel points out in his overarching piece in The Athletic, Oregon holds a lot of power here. If they want to stay, the Pac-12 has a future. If they want to go and the Big Ten is willing to say yes, we’re deep down the path to the Big 2.

From an SEC perspective, in value the two most obvious targets are Clemson and Florida State. Those are three of your last nine national championships, and Clemson just played for another in 2019. Those two would get you to 18. If you wanted to expand from there? Virginia Tech is the next most valuable football program in the ACC, the last in the $250+ million club. Miami is further down the list (behind Georgia Tech among ACC schools, but that seems unlikely from a football perspective), but certainly adds name recognition, history, and expands the footprint.

One other thought among many: the SEC’s last two rounds of expansion always went outside existing territories and rivalries: Arkansas and South Carolina in 1992, Missouri and Texas A&M in 2012. Would South Carolina and Florida protest the most obvious additions of Clemson and Florida State, even in this landscape?

If so, I wonder about Duke and North Carolina from an all-sports perspective, which would immediately change the calculus in basketball. If Duke is a no go for various reasons, North Carolina and Virginia Tech would still fit the previous model.

Here’s the real question: how many of these teams are worth it?

And if the league decides they’re good at 16, would they still be good if the Big Ten went shopping? Does a 16-team SEC still carry enough weight to lead the conversation if the Big Ten adds Clemson, Notre Dame, Oregon, and Washington?

Some of this will also get down to the future of the College Football Playoff. Does the SEC view the Big Ten as an equal, or at least equalish? As early as 2026, could we see the champion of the SEC play the champion of the Big Ten, and nevermind what anyone else thinks?

There are plenty of dominoes to fall from there, including future non-conference scheduling, etc. But there is certainly a scenario where the SEC looks at all of this, even potential future expansion from the Big Ten, and says, “Nah, we’re good.”

If the league does say yes to expansion, then…

How big is too big?

Let’s start with what feels like the football move that would earn the most head nods: add Clemson and Florida State to go to 18, then stop there. At that point, the league doesn’t need Miami, or the North Carolina and Virginia markets to make that case that it clearly has the only championship-caliber argument in the south.

For scheduling purposes, we’ll attempt to stick to the one thing everyone seems to agree on: teams in the same conference need to play each other more often! Eighteen teams lends itself to two models:

  • One annual rivalry, then rotate the other eight opponents every year.
  • Five annual rivalries, then rotate four other opponents every three years.

One annual rivalry among 18 teams is a mess, particularly for a team like Tennessee. A quick pass at what made the most sense to me left the Vols and their opponent with the third-best option every year:

  • Alabama vs Auburn
  • Florida vs Florida State
  • Clemson vs South Carolina
  • Georgia vs Tennessee
  • Texas A&M vs LSU
  • Texas vs Oklahoma
  • Ole Miss vs Mississippi State
  • Arkansas vs Missouri
  • Kentucky vs Vanderbilt

Maybe it’s moderately fair, and in this system you’re seeing everyone every other year anyway. But in this format, games like Alabama/Tennessee, Florida/Georgia, Auburn/Georgia, etc. are getting played on home fields only once every four years. Seems unlikely, even in the midst of so many traditions falling by the wayside.

Five annual rivalries with four rotating opponents? Let’s get nuts.

18-Team SEC, Five Annual Rivalries (Plus 4 rotating opponents)

AlabamaAuburnLSUTennesseeTexas A&MClemson
ArkansasLSUMissouriTexas A&MMississippi StTexas
AuburnAlabamaGeorgiaLSUMississippi StFlorida State
ClemsonSouth CarolinaFlorida StateGeorgiaAlabamaVanderbilt
FloridaGeorgiaFlorida StateTennesseeSouth CarolinaKentucky
Florida StateFloridaClemsonAuburnVanderbiltSouth Carolina
GeorgiaFloridaAuburnSouth CarolinaClemsonTennessee
KentuckyTennesseeVanderbiltFloridaMississippi StMissouri
LSUArkansasAlabamaTexas A&MOle MissAuburn
Mississippi StOle MissArkansasAuburnKentuckyOklahoma
MissouriArkansasSouth CarolinaOklahomaTexasKentucky
Ole MissMississippi StLSUVanderbiltOklahomaTexas
OklahomaTexasTexas A&MMissouriOle MissMississippi St
South CarolinaClemsonMissouriGeorgiaFloridaFlorida State
TennesseeKentuckyAlabamaVanderbiltFloridaGeorgia
TexasOklahomaTexas A&MArkansasMissouriOle Miss
Texas A&MTexasArkansasLSUOklahomaAlabama
VanderbiltTennesseeKentuckyOle MissFlorida StateClemson

It’s imperfect, for sure, and carries some compromise for many, especially new additions like Oklahoma with few natural fits for so many protected rivalries. But for a team like Tennessee (and others), this system preserves every one of our biggest rivalries, then you’d see everyone else every three years, and in Neyland every six years.

So in addition to playing Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, and Vanderbilt every year, you’d get something like this:

YEAR A: Clemson, at Texas A&M, at Texas, Missouri

YEAR B: at LSU, Florida State, Ole Miss, at Mississippi State

YEAR C: Oklahoma, at Auburn, at South Carolina, Arkansas

(then switch the home-and-away for the next three years)

Or go to 20, and you’ve got:

20-Team SEC, Four Annual Rivalries (Plus 5 Rotating Opponents)

AlabamaAuburnTennesseeLSUOle Miss
ArkansasLSUMissouriTexasTexas A&M
AuburnAlabamaGeorgiaMississippi StLSU
ClemsonSouth CarolinaFlorida StateVirginia TechMiami
FloridaFlorida StateGeorgiaTennesseeSouth Carolina
Florida StateFloridaMiamiClemsonVirginia Tech
GeorgiaFloridaAuburnSouth CarolinaVanderbilt
KentuckyTennesseeVanderbiltMississippi StVirginia Tech
LSUArkansasAlabamaTexas A&MAuburn
MiamiFlorida StateVirginia TechClemsonSouth Carolina
Mississippi StOle MissAuburnKentuckyMissouri
MissouriArkansasOklahomaTexasMississippi St
OklahomaTexasTexas A&MMissouriOle Miss
Ole MissMississippi StVanderbiltAlabamaOklahoma
South CarolinaClemsonGeorgiaFloridaMiami
TennesseeKentuckyVanderbiltAlabamaFlorida
TexasOklahomaTexas A&MArkansasMissouri
Texas A&MTexasOklahomaLSUArkansas
VanderbiltTennesseeKentuckyOle MissGeorgia
Virginia TechMiamiFlorida StateClemsonKentucky

No matter which way you do it, there are compromises. These are just first draft ideas.

These exercises are fun, especially in July. Are either of them better for Tennessee than the SEC staying put at 16 teams?

The real answer to that question, I think: what will access to the College Football Playoff look like?

You need enough carrots out there for everyone in your league, as we wrote when Oklahoma and Texas headed our way last July. One way to make such a thing at least possible: an eight-team SEC playoff, which would instantly become a pass/fail benchmark for the entire league. Send the winner to face the champion of the BIG Whatever, and you’ve got a deal…it’s just one that cuts out everyone else in college football from the national championship chase.

If the sport isn’t headed in that direction, you’re still talking about x number of SEC teams chasing College Football Playoff bids…but for the rest? Is the Outback Bowl or whatever it’s called today still going to cut it when an increased playing field inherently leads to more losses to go around?

I don’t know the answer to these questions, though I do enjoy the conversation.

The best thing Tennessee can do: keep getting better.

The Good Old Days

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Over the years of writing about Tennessee, we’ve sometimes joked about, “Man, imagine how much fun this will be when we win!”

And what you learn along the way is, these little moments are always available. Your team doesn’t have to win it all before they can do something meaningful, before we can enjoy them.

Whenever I hear people asking if this – right now – is as good as it’s ever been, I feel my age. In March and April of 1998, the men’s basketball team made the NCAA Tournament for the first time in nine years, and the Lady Vols went 39-0 to win their third straight national championship. You’re probably aware of what the football team did that fall. Those were some pretty good days.

But what I really think back to is 2007-08. In the summer of 2007, Lady Vol softball played for the national championship. That fall, we won the SEC East in football. In February, we beat #1 Memphis and went to the top of the polls ourselves in basketball. And in April, the Lady Vols won their second straight national championship. It felt like a time less reliant on purely what we did in football, and more about the overall health of the athletic department.

There’s an image from back then that I can’t find, but often reference: Pat Summitt, Phillip Fulmer, and Bruce Pearl sitting together at a Lady Vol softball game. Two Mount Rushmore faces of Tennessee Athletics, and a young (47 at the time!) coach you thought might join them one day. You just knew we were in good hands, and those hands would have us in the hunt.

That’s the real prize, to me: are we in the hunt?

Define success only by winning championships, and you will spend most of your fandom disappointed. But are your teams capable? When you sit down to watch, do you believe they can win? That’s the prize.

Things changed faster than any of us would’ve guessed from those 2007-08 seasons, now 15 years ago. There have still been moments along the way, always accessible. We’ve just had a really hard time lining them up:

  • Men’s basketball went to the Elite Eight in 2010, two months after Lane Kiffin left in the middle of the night.
  • Pat Summitt was diagnosed with early-onset Alzheimer’s in 2011, still helping the team win the SEC Tournament and reach the Elite Eight in 2012, her final season.
  • Cuonzo Martin’s 2014 team came within a charge call of the Elite Eight. He left for Cal soon after.
  • The 2015 and 2016 football Vols went 9-4, 3-1 against Florida and Georgia in those two years. Those seasons carried their share of what could’ve been, but still represent the high-water mark for football since 2007. Meanwhile, men’s basketball had their low-water mark for the same span in 2015 and 2016 during the transition from Donnie Tyndall to Rick Barnes.
  • Barnes got it going with an SEC Championship in 2018 and a month at #1 in 2019. Those years were preceded by a 4-8 football season in 2017, then a handful of 25+ point losses in 2018.

We got close enough to consider asking the question two ago, after football rallied from a 1-4 start to finish 8-5 in the fall of 2019. Some of those moments were both fun and meaningful. And that remained the struggle soon after, certainly impacted by the pandemic: how to string meaningful moments together, to make one year build on the next.

On the football side of things, credit Josh Heupel and his staff for making his year one far more competitive and exciting than most had planned, then building on it with real momentum in recruiting. And since football season ended, we’ve seen this:

  • Men’s basketball won the SEC Tournament for the first time since 1979
  • The Lady Vols made the Sweet 16 for the first time since 2016
  • Baseball spent most of the season ranked #1, winning the SEC regular season and tournament crowns

It’s not that every program on campus is ready to be considered the best in the land. But in those sports, Tennessee is in the hunt. Softball hasn’t left the hunt.

And that question now turns to football, the biggest hunt of all. The Vols haven’t won 9+ games in the regular season since 2007.

Meaningful Saturdays are out there, and not too many from now. What will this team do this fall?

On a personal note: I started writing about Tennessee 16 years ago, about 10 days after I became a pastor. I’d lived in Knoxville all my life, then moved to Virginia to begin serving churches. And I just missed talking about the Vols.

I did that for a few years just on my own, as it fit into the rhythm of my life. And then Joel Hollingsworth asked me to join the team at Rocky Top Talk, which I did right after Kiffin was hired. And it had such a profound and positive impact on my life, all those years getting to talk about the Vols with so many people, even if the years were often confusing and it felt like no two sports could get it going at the same time.

We left RTT and restarted over here five years ago now, with kids on the way and another move back to Virginia, and more time to write about other things. And through all of that, up to and including a pandemic, sitting down at the keyboard to do this has remained such a positive thing in my life.

Two weeks ago, after 16 years away, my family and I moved back to Knoxville. And starting this Sunday, I’m elated to be joining the team at Powell Church. We’re so thrilled to be part of such a great community, and to be back home in the area. More than anything, we are incredibly grateful.

I still plan on sitting down at this keyboard trying to figure things out, with the Vols and otherwise, and finding its fit in the rhythm of our lives here. Frankly, I don’t know how to be a pastor without it. I just wanted to say thanks – for wherever you’ve read for however often – for making a difference in my life.

The good old days are always out there. And sometimes they seem closer than others.

But they look pretty good from here.

Go Vols.

Do you have to win at an elite level before you can recruit at one?

In the last 10 years, 20 different schools signed at least one Top 10 recruiting class (via the 247 Composite):

  • 10x: Alabama
  • 9: Georgia, Ohio State
  • 8: LSU
  • 6: Auburn, Clemson, Michigan, Texas, Texas A&M, USC
  • 5: Notre Dame, Oklahoma
  • 4: Florida, Florida State
  • 2: Ole Miss, Oregon, Penn State, Tennessee
  • 1: Miami, UCLA

This list makes sense, right? Wins follow talent, rinse, repeat.

Here’s the question, especially as it relates to Tennessee: how often does talent follow wins?

Do you have to win at an elite level before you can recruit at one? For this exercise, let’s ask it this way: how many programs have signed a Top 10 recruiting class without winning 10+ games in any of the four previous years?

That’s the question for Tennessee’s program right now, sparked by the commitment of Nico Iamaleava, the Vols’ highest-rated prospect since Bryce Brown in 2009. With NIL opportunities and a record-breaking offense, the Vols have momentum.

It didn’t translate into adding more blue chip players into the fold this week, though the Vols have several more on campus this weekend. Missing out on guys we may have talked ourselves into can send the narrative back in the other direction. So maybe it’s helpful to take a more objective look: how realistic is it to expect the Vols to land a Top 10 class before they “prove it” on the field by winning 10+ games?

In the last six years – so 60 Top 10 classes – I count two instances of a program landing a Top 10 class without having won 10+ games in the four previous years (or Texas A&M going 9-1 in 2020).

Let’s start there, in fact: the Aggies finished with the #6 recruiting class in February of 2020. That followed years of 9-4 and 8-5 in Jimbo Fisher’s first two seasons, 8-5 and 7-6 in Kevin Sumlin’s last two. At that point, the Aggies last won 10+ games with Johnny Football in 2012, eight years earlier. Jimbo Fisher, however, won 10+ games at Florida State every year from 2012-2016, including a national championship. That certainly earned them a little extra juice, and A&M paid it off with just one loss in 2020 and a win over Alabama in 2021.

The only other instance in the last 10 years of a team landing a Top 10 class without a recent year of 10+ wins also comes from Texas: the Longhorns finished #3 in the 2018 recruiting rankings. Tom Herman went 7-6 in his first season just before that, and followed three years of seven losses under Charlie Strong. At that point, Texas hadn’t won 10+ games since making the BCS Championship Game in 2009, a nine-year gap. Herman also immediately paid that class off with a 10-4 season in the fall of 2018.

For both Texas in 2018 and Texas A&M in 2020, it wasn’t so much that a ton of true freshmen from one elite class made all the difference, but that the program had real momentum which manifested itself in both recruiting and on fall Saturdays. It became sustained success at A&M, less so for Texas (though shout out to the Mannings).

Either way, these are the only two examples of a program signing an elite recruiting class without a recent season of 10+ wins in the last six years.

So yeah, it’s hard to do and clearly the exception to the rule. The rich tend to get richer in this sport. But Tennessee is a good fit for the kind of “formerly rich” program that could potentially pull it off. We know that’s true, because if you back it up to the last 10 years, you find a few more examples:

  • Texas also signed Top 10 classes in 2015 and 2016 under Charlie Strong, despite having no 10+ win season since 2009
  • Tennessee did it under Butch Jones in 2014 and 2015, despite having no 10+ win season since 2007
  • UCLA and Ole Miss did it in 2013. The Bruins last won 10+ games in 2005. The Rebels did it with Cutcliffe and Eli in 2003.

Is this happening less often these last six years as part of more overall talent consolidation? Could be. Given who is still doing it – and that Tennessee almost did it with Jeremy Pruitt’s 11th-rated class in 2020 – it may be as much resource consolidation as anything.

Maybe the more relevant question for Tennessee is, how different is the challenge facing Josh Heupel right now than the one Butch Jones faced when he signed Top 10 classes in 2014 and 2015? Those groups certainly had the advantage when it comes to proximity to Tennessee’s on-field success. Our last 10+ win season was in 2007. That’s a greater distance than any of these other programs faced. Butch’s classes were also heavier on in-state and legacy kids, an advantage that also becomes weaker the farther you get from on-field success.

But Heupel and company have already landed a bigger fish than any cycle this century other than Bryce Brown in 2009 and Eric Berry in 2007. And those NIL opportunities and the SEC’s overall profile give the current administration some new advantages.

Creating a hardline expectation of a Top 10 class before winning 10+ games on the field seems unrealistic. But believing the opportunity for such a thing can exist at Tennessee? That, thankfully, still appears to be true here. The Vols are 15th in the 2023 ratings right now with only 10 commits. There’s a lot of work left to be done, on and off the field. Nothing will help Tennessee more in recruiting than doing more work on the field; this week was a reminder that you tend not to skip steps in this process, and there are still real stakes in this thing every Saturday.

But the work Tennessee has already done in recruiting, and the surge in competitiveness in year one under this staff, has given the Vols a chance to make that next step in recruiting, even 15 years removed from a 10+ win season. It still speaks to the overall strength of the program, all these years later, that multiple coaches have had those opportunities. And both in recruiting and on Saturdays – and not too many from now – I’m excited to see what this group can do with their chance.

Go Vols.

Vols in the NBA Draft: Finding the Right Fit

The NBA Draft is Thursday, and Kennedy Chandler finds himself in familiar territory for VFLs. In the latest mock drafts, Chandler’s most common landing spot is somewhere in the 20s:

Kennedy Chandler Mock Draft Projections

  • Yahoo: 20th, San Antonio
  • CBS: 22nd, Memphis
  • ESPN: 22nd, Memphis
  • SB Nation: 26th, Dallas
  • The Athletic: 27th, Miami
  • The Ringer: 27th, Miami
  • Bleacher Report: 29th, Memphis
  • USA Today: 38th, San Antonio (Round 2)
  • Sports Illustrated: 39th, Cleveland (Round 2)

A twentysomething pick would put him in the exact same range as the other three picks from the Rick Barnes era: Keon Johnson and Jaden Springer went 21st and 28th last year, and Grant Williams was 22nd in 2019. Throw in Tobias Harris at 19th in 2011, and it’s the approximate range for every Vol taken since Marcus Haislip went 13th in 2002.

Picks in the 20s can be a great friend to the viewer. These picks are slotted for playoff teams, looking for that extra push. For Chandler in this draft, Memphis, Dallas, and Miami are all teams who can talk themselves into the title conversation right away.

The Vols have just three Top 10 picks all time, and none since Dale Ellis in 1983. The program hasn’t necessarily produced guys with instant NBA expectations outside of Ellis, Bernard King (7th), and Allan Houston (11th). But the mid-to-late first round has been good to Tobias Harris and Grant Williams for sure.

It also became a building block for one-and-done players last year. Keon Johnson appeared in 37 games as a rookie, traded from the Clippers to Portland in the middle of the year. Jaden Springer saw action only twice, but a solid year in the G-League could push him back to an NBA roster with the Sixers in 2023. That route continues to provide a path for Barnes-era players like Admiral Schofield (38 games with Orlando this year).

As we’ve written about plenty over the last two months, it’s a gift to have one of your players land on a team that can compete for championships. Grant Williams went to a contender at 22 and found his way into the rotation for three playoff runs. Sometimes there’s also a space where a team is simply too good. Can Yves Pons play in the league? I think that answer can still be yes. Is he good enough to crack the Memphis rotation right now? So far, the answer is not yet.

For Kennedy Chandler, there could be immediate backup point guard opportunities on a playoff team, especially with the hometown Grizzlies picking at 22 and 29. Tennessee’s overall NBA pedigree continues to grow: if Chandler hits in the first round, he’ll be UT’s fourth selection there in the last four years. It took 35 years for the Vols to produce their four prior first round picks (Ellis, Houston, Haislip, Tobias). That’s pretty good progress.

And it’ll feel even better if Chandler lands on a team that gives us a chance to see him earn some playoff minutes.

It’s Steep Out Here

There is no hurt like “we had a chance to win it all” hurt. The pain is a privilege.

This, of course, was not, “Tennessee fans think they have a chance to win it all, but…”. These baseball Vols were number one for months, consistently the best in a way only the Lady Vols can compare to in our own modern history. And whatever your list of most painful Lady Vol losses, they are at least somewhat cushioned by the eight times we didn’t lose.

I’m unqualified to speak on what’s atop that list, and unqualified to speak in fullness of this baseball team. I didn’t watch every game or break down every scenario the way it goes for football and men’s basketball.

But this team made me want to. I bet I’m not alone on that one. And that can pay off nicely for the entire program.

When we do turn to those more familiar endeavors, to me there is no question when discussing which losses are most painful. In football, it’s 2001 in Atlanta, ranked second in the nation and a second half away from playing for a second BCS title in four years.

In basketball, the Vols have never climbed as high when postseason play began, and our losses as two-seeds always seemed easier to understand (even when the reason is, “Ryan Cline hit seven threes.”). To me, the most painful basketball loss is still 2000 North Carolina in the Sweet 16. Those Vols were only a four seed. But the bracket broke wide open, and Tennessee was the highest remaining seed in the region entering the Sweet 16.

There will always be a part of my brain that clings to a 17-7 lead over LSU in the second quarter. There will always be a part that’s up seven with 4:30 to play against North Carolina. And we may indeed find ourselves drawn back to a 3-1 lead on Notre Dame with two outs in the Top of the 7th.

There is no hurt like having a team that can win it all lose a game with a chance to win. The price of courting the mountaintop is the distance you can fall.

And yet, you wouldn’t ask to be anywhere else. For many years, we haven’t even had the option.

Every season tells a story, and I believe you can find something meaningful in all of them. Sometimes it’s your basketball team scratching and clawing to make the NIT (see also: Hamer, Steve). Sometimes it’s a football team leaping back toward relevance much faster than you thought they would.

You hope, of course, that all that meaning is pointed toward the mountaintop. And when you can see it from there – really, truly see it, almost close enough to touch – a fall is going to hurt, like nothing else.

But we’ll climb again.

To what end, we never know for sure. Twenty-one years later, football is yet to come closer to the mountaintop than that night in Atlanta. But from that North Carolina loss in basketball, our best days were ahead of us and not behind.

I’m really grateful to this baseball team, in joining with last year’s to establish an entirely new rhythm for our entire fanbase. What used to be an eight month football offseason has blossomed into championship-caliber programs in basketball and baseball, ground their counterparts on the women’s side have already broken. Now, there are present-tense reasons to invest in Tennessee in almost every month of the year.

This one ended a week too soon. But they established a presence that can carry these spring and summer weeks for years to come.

Go Vols.

Grant Williams Comes Alive in Game 3

Twenty-three years ago, Allan Houston was the last Vol to play rotation minutes in the NBA Finals. He did more than that: Houston would make the All-Star Game the next two seasons and play on the U.S. Olympic team. And he had already been responsible for getting the Knicks past the Miami Heat in round one:

The 1999 season was shortened by a lockout, and a 50-game regular season produced some strange playoff match-ups. That included the Knicks barely getting in as an eight seed, then dispatching the one-seed Heat on Houston’s shot. New York went all the way to the Finals from there, losing Patrick Ewing to injury along the way. Still, anything seemed possible, especially in the first year of a post-Jordan-Bulls league.

Standing in the way were the San Antonio Spurs, a fresh-faced Gregg Popovich making his first Finals appearance. The Spurs took the first two games with relative ease, sending the series to Madison Square Garden for the first time in five years.

In Game 3, Allan Houston exploded: 34 points, four assists, and an 89-81 victory. The stage was set for a compelling series.

But that would be as close as it got: San Antonio won Game 4 by seven, and closed out the Knicks behind 31 points from young Tim Duncan in Game 5. For the Knicks in particular, Houston’s heroics still represent a high point the franchise hasn’t come close to duplicating since.

Grant Williams is not Allan Houston. But he’s now closer to a ring than any rotation Vol in the NBA in these last 23 years. And not only was he vital in Game 7 against Milwaukee in round two, he was involved in a key sequence for Boston in Game 3 last night.

In the first two games, the matchup with Golden State was less ideal for Williams. He averaged 32 minutes in the Milwaukee series and 30 against Miami, but played just 16 minutes in Game 1 of the Finals and 21 minutes in Game 2.

He only got 20 minutes in Game 3, but he made the most of them.

The Celtics were up a dozen at halftime and pushed it to 14 early in the third quarter. It was still at nine midway through the period. That’s when one of the more unusual sequences I’ve ever seen unfolded: Steph Curry hit a three, and Al Horford was called for a foul for being in his landing area. Upon review, the foul was deemed flagrant, giving Curry a four-point play and the Warriors possession…and Otto Porter Jr. buried another three, giving Golden State a seven-point possession. Just like that, a nine point lead was two.

A Curry three actually put Golden State in front, but Boston rallied. The Celtics were back on top 89-86 with 90 seconds to play in the third. And that’s when Grant said hello:

Grant’s offensive rebound and free throw was immediately followed by his corner three, putting Boston back up seven. And his final putback with nine minutes to play put the Celtics back up double figures. All told, Grant finished with 10 points and 5 rebounds. Draymond Green, generally loud and specifically entangled with Williams earlier in the game, fouled out with two points and four rebounds in 35 minutes.

The Celtics are up 2-1, with Game 4 on Friday night. Williams has now appeared in 43 playoff games in his three-year career with the Celtics, moving into fourth place all-time at UT for NBA Playoff appearances:

NBA Playoff Appearances by Former Vols

  1. Dale Ellis, 73 games (17 year career)
  2. Allan Houston, 63 games (12 years)
  3. C.J. Watson, 48 games (10 years)
  4. Grant Williams, 43 games (3 years)

It’s a gift for your favorite Vols to end up on teams that can win championships. The Celtics are two wins away. And if they get there, Grant Williams will have his fingerprints on the trophy in more ways than one.

Success, Relatively Speaking

One of the most interesting and most difficult questions to answer right now is, “What is a successful outcome for this Tennessee baseball team?”

When you’ve been number one for months and you find yourself in best. team. ever. conversations, there’s a version of this answer that goes national championship or bust. That, of course, is a dangerous game to play anytime, but especially given Tennessee’s overall baseball history. The Vols have only been to Omaha four times since 1951, and their last two trips in 2005 and 2021 came with no victories. Win a single game in the College World Series, and you’ve advanced farther than any Tennessee team since 2001. Win two, and you’ve equaled the 1995 Vols as the best of the modern era. (That 1951 squad made the finals out of the loser’s bracket before falling to Oklahoma.)

So there’s a whole conversation about this Tennessee team, one we may not revisit anytime soon. I assume the Vols will continue to compete for championships under Tony Vitello’s leadership. Assuming we’ll see something like this year, every year? That’s less likely, and more reason to celebrate what’s in front of us.

But in the conversation about Tennessee as a program, the Vols are currently achieving on a level the best of the SEC has enjoyed for the last 20+ years.

A year ago this week, when all of this was even more new, we looked at what regular success might look like in baseball. Here’s an updated version of two of those charts, with data via wikipedia:

Super Regional appearances (since 1999)

  • 15: LSU (last in 2021)
  • 13: South Carolina (2018)
  • 10: Arkansas (2022), Florida (2018), Mississippi State (2021), Vanderbilt (2021)
  • 9: Texas A&M (2022)
  • 8: Ole Miss (2022)
  • 4: Auburn (2022), Georgia (2008), Tennessee (2022)
  • 3: Alabama (2010)
  • 1: Kentucky (2017)
  • 0: Missouri

Here again, the history of the best SEC programs under this format suggests making the Super Regionals 2-of-3 years is a good goal. No one does it every year. But if you’re doing it right, you’re getting this far more often than not.

Let’s zoom in here:

Last Two Super Regional Appearances

  • Alabama: 2010, 2006
  • Arkansas: 2022, 2021
  • Auburn: 2022, 2019
  • Florida: 2018, 2017
  • Georgia: 2008, 2006
  • Kentucky: one appearance (2017)
  • LSU: 2021, 2019
  • Ole Miss: 2022, 2021
  • Mississippi State: 2021, 2019
  • Missouri: no appearances
  • South Carolina: 2018, 2016
  • Tennessee: 2022, 2021
  • Texas A&M: 2022, 2017
  • Vanderbilt: 2021, 2019

SEC teams making it two straight Super Regionals this week: Arkansas, Ole Miss, Tennessee. Others hitting the two-in-three-years threshold: Auburn, LSU, Mississippi State, Vanderbilt. That’s half the league.

Here’s the next part:

College World Series appearances (since 1999)

  • 8: Florida (last in 2018), LSU (2017)
  • 6: Arkansas (2019), South Carolina (2012)
  • 5: Mississippi State (2021), Vanderbilt (2021)
  • 4: Georgia (2008)
  • 3: Tennessee (2022), Texas A&M (2017)
  • 1: Alabama (1999), Auburn (2019), Ole Miss (2014)
  • 0: Kentucky, Missouri

Appearing at least once in the last three years: Arkansas, Auburn, Mississippi State, Tennessee, and Vanderbilt. Ole Miss and Texas A&M can join that list over the weekend. If so, that would again be half the league.

Zooming out here, should the Vols go back-to-back:

Last Two College World Series Appearances

  • Alabama: 1999, 1997
  • Arkansas: 2019, 2018
  • Auburn: 2019, 1997
  • Florida: 2018, 2017 (four straight back to 2015)
  • Georgia: 2008, 2006
  • Kentucky: never
  • LSU: 2017, 2015
  • Ole Miss: 2014, 1972
  • Mississippi State: 2021, 2019 (three straight back to 2018)
  • Missouri: 1964, 1963 (three straight back to 1962)
  • South Carolina: 2012, 2011 (three straight back to 2010)
  • Tennessee: 2021, 2005
  • Texas A&M: 2017, 2011
  • Vanderbilt: 2021, 2019

With Mississippi State failing to make the field and Vanderbilt out, the Vols would be the only SEC team with an active two-year streak in the College World Series, if they get past Notre Dame. They would become the sixth SEC team to pull off two straight trips to Omaha this century.

And here’s the most fun list of all:

National Championships

  • Florida: 2017
  • Georgia: 1990
  • LSU: 2009, 2000, 1997, 1996, 1993, 1991
  • Mississippi State: 2021
  • Missouri: 1954
  • South Carolina: 2011, 2010
  • Vanderbilt: 2019, 2014
  • Still waiting: Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Kentucky, Ole Miss, Tennessee, Texas A&M

SEC teams have won seven of the last twelve championships, and three of the last four. Arkansas just missed in 2018. Five teams are still alive in these Super Regionals to continue those trends.

As a program, Tennessee is on pace with top-tier success for an SEC program over the last two years. The Vols are one of three programs to make back-to-back Super Regionals, and can become the only SEC program to make the College World Series in 2021 and 2022. Winning it would make them the fourth SEC team to bring home a ring in the last five years. The league is very good at this.

Which continues to make what this particular Tennessee team is accomplishing all the more impressive.

Onward and upward. Go Vols.

How hard is it to win an SEC Championship?

If I asked you to guess where Tennessee ranked in SEC Championships in the five biggest sports (football, men’s & women’s basketball, baseball, softball) in the last ten years, what would you say?

We know football is still working on the comeback. We know the Lady Vols aren’t at the peak of their powers. It’s easy for the gray skies of football to cloud the perception of the whole over the last ten years, especially when there’s not a dominant alternative in women’s basketball or elsewhere.

How do the Vols rank in regular season SEC titles in the big five sports over the last ten years?

Tied for fourth.

SEC Regular Season Championships since 2012 Expansion

Since 2012FootballMen’s BballWomen’s BballBaseballSoftballTotal
Florida0203611
Alabama7100210
South Carolina006006
Kentucky040004
LSU110204
Tennessee012104
Arkansas000123
Auburn120003
Mississippi State002103
Texas A&M011002
Vanderbilt000202
Georgia100001
Missouri000000
Ole Miss000000

(data via wikipedia)

The Gators lead the way via spring dominance. Alabama football continues to be the most dominant program in the conference among these five sports, followed closely by Florida softball and South Carolina women’s basketball. Those six for the Gamecocks pull them ahead of 11 other schools in the league by themselves.

But Tennessee’s four regular season SEC titles since expansion are next, tied with Kentucky and LSU. The Lady Vols won the league in 2013 and 2015. Men’s basketball won in 2018. And the baseball team just secured the regular season crown.

Texas A&M has won a pair of conference titles in the big five sports since joining the league. Missouri has won zero. Ole Miss has nothing in the last ten years. And Georgia’s 2017 SEC title is their only mark on the board (though I’m sure they’ll take the trade with Alabama from this past fall).

Only Florida, Alabama, LSU, and Tennessee have won regular season titles in at least three sports in the last ten years. Winning is hard!

It’s an amazing thing to be able to have the, “This is as healthy as our athletic department has been since _________,” conversation right now. For those of us who are old enough to remember, the answer to that question came with a level of success in both football and women’s basketball that may not be repeatable year after year in the current climate. We’ll see.

Either way, what’s happening right now is indeed remarkable, and becomes more so as you expand outward:

It’s also a consistent reflection of who Tennessee has been going backwards:

SEC Regular Season Championships since 1992 Expansion

Since 1992FootballMen’s BballWomen’s BballBaseballSoftballTotal
Florida7608930
LSU5439526
Tennessee23153124
Alabama10202620
Kentucky01311015
Georgia3033211
South Carolina0163111
Auburn331007
Arkansas020327
Vanderbilt010405
Mississippi State012104
Ole Miss001102
Texas A&M011002
Missouri000000

(SEC softball began play in 1997)

Take it all the way back to when women’s basketball began in this league in 1980:

SEC Regular Season Championships since 1980

Since 1980FootballMen’s BballWomen’s BballBaseballSoftballTotal
Florida87011935
LSU77313535
Tennessee54183131
Alabama12303624
Kentucky02121024
Georgia6173219
Auburn7350015
South Carolina0163111
Mississippi State022408
Arkansas020327
Vanderbilt010506
Ole Miss001102
Texas A&M011002
Missouri000000

The only schools to win a championship in all five sports: LSU, Tennessee, and Georgia.

Winning is hard!

A couple of other fun notes from this chart:

  • The least balanced sport in the conference is football. Since 1980, you’ve got haves and have-nots: the six traditional powers all won at least five regular season titles, and no one else has won any. The last time someone other than those six schools won the SEC: Ole Miss in 1963.
  • As dominant as Alabama seems in football now, they’ve got little on Kentucky basketball and the Lady Vols.
  • In men’s basketball, everyone other than Ole Miss and Missouri has won the league at least once since 1980. There’s a similar truth in baseball, with everyone other than Auburn and the new guys from A&M and Missouri taking home at least one prize.

Tennessee has always had a top-rate athletic department in this league, competing for and winning championships in almost every sport. That’s the goal, right?

And right now, even without the full firepower of football or a women’s basketball program that defined the sport? Things have still been pretty good overall, and are trending healthier every day.

Winning is hard. And overall, Tennessee might be better at it than we give them credit for.

What are the most dominant regular seasons in UT’s modern era?

Tennessee’s baseball team begins its final regular season series today at Mississippi State. The defending national champs have struggled this season, 9-18 in league play and fighting to make the SEC Tournament next week. Meanwhile, Tennessee already clinched the SEC title at 22-5, five games up on Arkansas. The Vols are 45-7 overall, the only team in the Top 25 (and, I assume, the nation) with single-digit losses on the year.

We looked last week at the relevant history this baseball team is chasing. It can feel a bit this week like history is the only remaining prize until postseason play begins. But there’s plenty of that to go around, starting with:

Most SEC Regular Season wins (Current 30-game format, 1996-2022)

  1. 26 – 2013 Vanderbilt
  2. 25 – 2000 South Carolina
  3. 23 – 2019 Vanderbilt
  4. 22 – 2022 Tennessee (tied with eight others, three games to play)

Avoid getting swept, and the Vols will have one of the three best regular season records in the SEC in the last 26 years. Sweep the Bulldogs, and the Vols will tie South Carolina for the second-best regular season record in that span.

An obvious truth that bears repeating here: the SEC is good. Like, really good. So anytime you win it – not just in baseball, but in any sport – you celebrate like crazy.

The Vols earned their third SEC regular season championship since 1994 and just their fourth ever. Those Todd Helton teams that went back-to-back in ’94 and ’95 won the SEC by 2 and 1.5 games respectively. The current squad is up five with three to play. There could be more available history here too:

SEC Baseball Largest Championship Margin (Current format)

  1. 5.5 games – 2000 South Carolina
  2. 5 games – 2022 Tennessee (three to play)
  3. 4 games – 2007 Vanderbilt
  4. 3.5 games – 2013 Vanderbilt

Again: celebrate this team because it won the SEC Championship, because that’s incredibly hard to do by itself! But in the midst of that, we’re seeing one of the best regular seasons of any SEC team in the last three decades…which automatically makes it one of the best regular seasons we’ve ever seen on this campus.

In the five biggest sports on campus, here’s how hard it is to win an SEC title:

Tennessee’s SEC Championships since 1980

  • Football: 5 SEC Championships since 1985
  • Men’s Basketball: 4 SEC Championships since 1982
  • Baseball: 3 SEC Championships since 1994
  • Softball: 1 SEC Championship in 2007

Wait for it:

  • Women’s Basketball: 18 SEC Championships since 1980

Okay, hard for almost everyone. That’s 18 for Lady Vol basketball, 13 for the other four biggest sports combined. Word.

So this baseball team is already on a short list on campus, one worthy of celebration no matter what happens in the postseason. Just how high up that list might they go?

Again: the SEC is good. It’s hard to win championships, and even with your best-of-the-best teams, the margins are thin. We often speak of this when some of our very best teams – most recently 2019 men’s basketball – happen to coincide with some of the very best teams at other schools in the same year. The Grant/Admiral ’19 squad went 15-3 in the SEC – two games better than the previous year’s league champions – but LSU went 16-2. See also Spurrier, Steve, etc.

When the Vols have won those regular season championships, it wasn’t easy even with our very best teams. Consider the margins for those champions:

Football

  • 1985: Tied Florida at 5-1, Gators on probation (Florida won head-to-head 17-10)
  • 1989: Three-way-tie with Alabama & Auburn (Vols beat Auburn, Auburn beat Bama, Bama beat Vols)
  • 1990: Florida 6-1, Vols 5-1-1, Gators on probation (Vols won head-to-head 45-3)
  • 1997: SEC East Vols 7-1, Florida & UGA 6-2. Vols beat Auburn 30-29 in Atlanta.
  • 1998: SEC East Vols 8-0, Florida 7-1. Vols beat Mississippi State 24-14 in Atlanta.

With the exception of 1998, every one of those championships was a margin of one game or a split title. The ’98 Vols had the minimum two-game cushion an undefeated season provides in the division, but that was an elite Florida squad we almost saw again in the Fiesta Bowl. And nothing was ever easy for us in the Georgia Dome. Winning is hard.

Men’s Basketball

  • 1982: Tied with Kentucky
  • 2000: Four-way-tie with Florida, Kentucky & LSU
  • 2008: Vols 14-2, two games over Kentucky & Mississippi State at 12-4
  • 2018: Tied with Auburn

Here again, only one of these outcomes had any cushion whatsoever. The 2008 Vols lost at Rupp Arena, and fell to Memorial Magic in the ultimate trap game. Their KenPom rating isn’t as high as the 2019 (or 2022) teams, but they secured the program’s only outright SEC title in my lifetime. Winning is hard!

Baseball

  • 1994: Won by 2 games
  • 1995: Won by 1.5 games
  • 2022: Up 5 with 3 to play

Softball

  • 2007: Swept a double-header vs Alabama on the last day of the regular season to win

Winning is hard!

You have the opportunity for larger margins with more games being played, of course, so a dominant baseball or softball team can look stronger just by the margin. But as we’ve seen, only three SEC baseball teams have won the regular season title by more than three games in the last 26 years. In softball, that 2007 team featured Monica Abbott and was a 10-inning loss away from a national championship. But they needed the final day of the season to win the SEC title.

The ultimate conversation about “best team ever” will be heavily influenced by what happens in the postseason, and rightfully so. But right now, I think you’d put this baseball team on a very, very short list…and one that’s doing to include lots of:

Women’s Basketball

Consider that the Lady Vols won the SEC regular season title by at least three games 10 times from 1995-2011 under Pat Summitt. The record there actually belongs to that 2011 squad: a 16-0 regular season champ, five games ahead of the field. They also won the SEC Tournament, before falling to Notre Dame in the Elite Eight.

Tennessee also won the regular season title by four games in 1998, 2004, and 2010. It’s that ’98 squad that will lead the way in any conversation about dominance: 39-0, with a third straight national championship. I count three single-digit wins in those 39 games: the regular season and SEC Tournament matchups with Alabama, and the Elite Eight comeback over North Carolina. So yeah: the dominance of that group may not be threatened in our lifetimes.

But as we move to the end of the regular season, this baseball team has put themselves in position to enter the holy of holies on campus. It is no exaggeration to put their regular season dominance in the conversation with 1998 football, 2008 men’s basketball, and a host of Lady Vol squads. If they continue to live into their number one ranking, we’ll continue to enjoy riding some outrageous trains of thought about the best teams to ever do it on this campus.

There is lots of fun left to be had here.

Go Vols.