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Joel Hollingsworth: [00:00:13] This is the Gameday on Rocky Top Podcast Episode One forty eight. Joel Hollingsworth and I’m with Brad Shepherd tonight. Brad say hi.

Brad Shepard: [00:00:25] How are

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:00:25] No

Brad Shepard: [00:00:25] You.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:00:28] I was going to say you know all you’re saying is hey you know you’ve heard all your words spent over the game I guess probably we’ll get to that in a second. First I got an off topic question for you like last week and I’m asking this because I actually know the answer and I want you to to admit it. Like a Man on the air. So what is the last concert you attended.

Brad Shepard: [00:00:53] Oh no you’re a genuinely bad person. That would be Taylor Swift and Camilla Cabella. You know Nissan Stadium

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:01:07] All right.

Brad Shepard: [00:01:07] What have I done to serve this. Joel.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:01:09] This is this is because you’re a huge Taylor Swift fan or you have like a teenage daughter that you’re taking to the thing or what.

Brad Shepard: [00:01:16] Neither my. So my little boy has grown up loving Taylor Swift and my wife loves Taylor Swift and secretly I know a lot of Taylor Swift’s songs because I kind of have become a bit of a closet fan by osmosis is a sweetie if you will is what my wife

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:01:38] Swiftie

Brad Shepard: [00:01:38] Is yelling in the background. So

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:01:40] Nice.

Brad Shepard: [00:01:41] It was it was a good show. It’s one that if my wife has anything to say about it and she normally does in every aspect and facet of my life we will probably be acting again at some time. So it was

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:01:55] All right.

Brad Shepard: [00:01:56] It really was a good show though we had a good time and you know I have to have my genre of music that I listen to which is our Jason Isbell and Sturgill Simpson and Son Volt and that kind of stuff. But

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:02:10] You

Brad Shepard: [00:02:10] Hey

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:02:10] Know

Brad Shepard: [00:02:11] You

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:02:11] Those people

Brad Shepard: [00:02:11] Know

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:02:11] Are

Brad Shepard: [00:02:12] Me it is what it is it’s it’s I had fun with it. It was it was a good time and it made for some pretty funny social media. So

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:02:21] All right very nice. I’ll have to say my last concert I had to think about it was actually Switchfoot it was many years ago seeing my youngest or my oldest daughter. She was maybe 15 16 I took her to Asheville and I think is it the orange peel or something like that.

Brad Shepard: [00:02:39] I think so. This sounds more

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:02:40] Yeah. So I saw them there and those guys are just awesome. Love those guys.

Brad Shepard: [00:02:44] They really are good. I don’t love Christian rock but I mean me I’m a Christian and I don’t love Christian rock. I mean that they are. They’re very talented.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:02:54] Yeah. And you know it’s almost like they there’s I don’t know. You know they have such a deep philosophical insight without any pushiness or preachiness or anything so. And they’re just they’re just cool to you know. So anyway.

Brad Shepard: [00:03:09] Yeah. Much cooler than Taylor Swift.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:03:12] Very much cooler than Taylor Swift. Yeah I’d take them in a fight any time. Yeah.

Brad Shepard: [00:03:17] Yes yes

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:03:18] All right. So anyway back to the vault. The vault is opened the Jeremy

Brad Shepard: [00:03:22] We

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:03:22] Pruitt

Brad Shepard: [00:03:22] Have.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:03:23] Yeah we can keep talking about Taylor Swift if you would

Brad Shepard: [00:03:26] Let’s

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:03:26] Yes. Sounds

Brad Shepard: [00:03:27] Make

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:03:27] Like

Brad Shepard: [00:03:27] This the

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:03:27] You

Brad Shepard: [00:03:27] Taylor

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:03:27] Got more

Brad Shepard: [00:03:28] Swift

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:03:28] In

Brad Shepard: [00:03:28] Our guests.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:03:28] Here.

Brad Shepard: [00:03:30] I’ll feel a little bit more happy talking about Taylor Swift. She’s not she’s not bad to look at either. So but I guess we probably should talk about the ball since that’s it. That’s what they pay for. So

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:03:42] All right so the Jeremy Pruitt area era kicked off with sort of a tough outing against the West Virginia Mountaineers they lost 40 to 14. Will Greer his and his excellent wide receiving corps they they just played havoc with Tennessee’s largely inexperienced secondary and I think I wrote something like this earlier it’s kind of like not knowing the Pythagorean theorem on the AC T. And so you miss the Pythagorean theorem question 12 times. You know they did one thing really badly but they did it over and over and over again. And there were some other issues too. But let’s let’s do this. First let me get just your general impression and then after that I’m going to ask you to do sort of a praise critique sandwich so we’re going to have one thing that was good about the game. One thing that was really disappointing about the game and then followed it up with another thing that might be good if you can find two things. So

Brad Shepard: [00:04:51] Yeah I can find actually three things really stood out to me. That was good. But we’ll talk we’ll get to that later.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:04:56] You can make it a triple decker sandwich if you want so. But first just general impressions. How do you feel after that after the game.

Brad Shepard: [00:05:05] You know I’m disappointed. And as I wrote you know I blame myself for being disappointed and I think I’ve had a lot of time to kind of think about it and digest it for whatever reason this game kind of hit me harder than a lot of them in recent history. And you know we were Tennessee fans were tough we’re used to losing by now. But I think you know this is this is what I think I think you know I believe that we’ve been we’ve been reading practice reports and listened to practice reports. But the bottom line is the media gets to see one or two sessions of practice so they can’t tell us anything about the team with any real knowledge of really you know kind of having a roadmap or a daily road map to say these guys. And and that’s a major problem because what then happens is they have to rely on what they hear and more than that. What Jeremy Perrot tells them now that that doesn’t. I’m not trying to be contrary into everything that we’ve talked about how you know we’re we’re used to Butch line to us. And now I’m saying that Pruett’s line to us. I don’t think that’s the case at all. But if you’re if if you’re Jeremy Pruitt and you’ve just come from Alabama and Georgia and Florida stay where they have a lot of talent and they have a lot of athletes and they know how to have years upon years a foundation of recruiting and you come here and you kind of know what you have you know.

Brad Shepard: [00:06:45] I don’t think that and I said last week that and so this is me contradicting myself last week I said last week that I didn’t think it was the top that would blow a bunch smoke. Now I believe that you know after seeing them that he didn’t want to just come out and rip these kids and butches blind. You know as we all know Butch never blamed himself and never blamed his staff. And he he he would call people out. And I think that at this juncture Pru knows that he can’t do that and expect anything this year from this team he can’t do it. And feel good about you know recruiting and those guys you know want to jump on the ship so I feel like maybe he kind of thought that he could cover up some of the talent deficiencies scheme which is why you’ve heard him talk so much about him and fundamentals being you know a state chromos loss in. But I just I’m more than that and that’s I think that’s the reason why he’s accentuated the positives coming out of that game is because I think he knows what we have which is the reason he’s told plenty of recruits and recruits have them you know repeated in stories.

Brad Shepard: [00:08:02] They created it to say that this is going to be the worst year of the Paroo. But just because we’re building a program and we don’t want to hear that as fans but you know what we saw him Saturday is not as bad as it is not as bad as it. It’s not that I think it’s it’s it’s not the way it’s going to be every single week. I think it could get better. But I also am not sure that’s the worst what’s going to be this year. So you know I mean Alabama and Georgia those teams not only can they put up points but there are a lot more physical than West Virginia. So you know it’s going to be. It’s going to be a long season and you just hope that somewhere in the midst of all of that you know getting blown out which we hate to get blown out but all the in kind of in the midst of it you can find six wins. I think that there are possibly six wins on the schedule. I am less enthused about getting to 6 than I was a week ago. So

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:09:00] Yeah.

Brad Shepard: [00:09:01] You know.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:09:02] You

Brad Shepard: [00:09:03] Yeah.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:09:03] Said last week that you were thinking that they were going to beat Florida. Has that changed.

Brad Shepard: [00:09:09] You know I’ve got to I got an opportunity to watch Florida for a play about the same level of competition Tennessee’s going to play in the next couple of weeks. Ford did not do anything to impress me whatsoever. But Tennessee

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:09:21] You didn’t like

Brad Shepard: [00:09:21] Father

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:09:21] Daniel as

Brad Shepard: [00:09:22] So

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:09:22] Dance moves.

Brad Shepard: [00:09:23] I did not know that such a corn ball man. How I mean while he may kill it there. But man if he does it’s going to be in spite of himself. Oh no. But anyway.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:09:39] Yes all right

Brad Shepard: [00:09:41] I mean but you know I’m I’m curious I’m curious to see how Tennessee looks the next couple of weeks. Not because I think it’s going to tell us anything about what this means. But man they need some coffee right now. I mean I didn’t lie I didn’t like body language on a Saturday. I didn’t like you know just somebody. They played hard. It’s just like I mean to me it was a thought. And and you know at this point it is kind of that and so you know you want to get that out of the program and that’s that’s not there yet. But it’s also you know it’s also not an overnight fix. I feel bad for us as fans and for the kids that are on that team because there was some optimism going into the game and the kids were optimistic going into the game and they kind of got back down to earth and I think it was David Rubin or whomever. I can’t remember who it was but somebody who said you know what Saturday good did was give us a starting point and then I kind of expounded upon that and Mark Coleman said you know we know where we are and we know where we want to go but the hard part is going to be get in there and do something that we’re all just going to have to go through together and that goes from you know from fans to coaches to especially players and they’ve got to learn how to win and you know they’re not playing football right now

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:11:08] Yeah I think that was actually your buddy Wes not been. But

Brad Shepard: [00:11:11] What was or what yeah

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:11:12] I think it

Brad Shepard: [00:11:12] Not

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:11:12] Was

Brad Shepard: [00:11:12] Being

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:11:13] Yeah it was a good one. And I have to say I was a little surprised to hear you say that you saw a bad poor body language because I didn’t really feel like I saw any of that.

Brad Shepard: [00:11:27] I did. There was a couple of shots at the end of the game I think it was Osborne and maybe and I’m not calling out those kids man I mean you know you’re getting you’re getting crushed that point you’re disappointed. I don’t think it was bad body language like a solid Ireton open season opener

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:11:41] Yeah.

Brad Shepard: [00:11:41] Last year I don’t like that at

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:11:43] Ok.

Brad Shepard: [00:11:43] All. I just think that I probably use a bad a bad term it was more like just ject Aylin which is why I kind of went into that I feel bad for it because I think that they thought that they were a little more prepared to face that they were.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:11:58] Yeah.

Brad Shepard: [00:11:58] And you know that Tennessee legitimately are not trying to point fingers or not noses but they legitimately was slow as powerful team. I watched all weekend and I probably watched about 30 hours of football. So I mean that’s that’s discouraging

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:12:14] You know I have to say though we don’t really know how good West Virginia is. So you know a little bit more data will probably help in my Monday. I guess it was Tuesday. I’ve lost track of the week. Whenever labor day comes you know I you know I just I lose track of everything. But anyway I’m looking forward to seeing how Tennessee does against competition like the rest of the S.E.C. played because after last weekend it felt like oh man Tennessee is the worst team in the U.S. because everybody else is score 50 points. You know. But you know most of those teams did not play ranked teams they didn’t play good teams. Now Auburn did but they won. But you know it wasn’t like a runaway. It wasn’t a blowout either so I’m really looking forward to a little more data when everybody starts playing sort of comparable teams. So we’ll see how that goes. But about the praise sandwich let’s let’s let’s come up with one positive take away a negative take away and then finish with a positive takeaway.

Brad Shepard: [00:13:28] Yeah I mean my biggest takeaway was aired Tato I thought that you know I didn’t really know what to expect. And I don’t think any of us really I mean you know we had heard that even though Prewett had kind of a little more praise than we were used to on the team. He’d been a little bit you know he’d been kind of quiet about his quarterbacks and and Gerin Tano. I thought played within himself. He did not play. He didn’t throw any passes that should have been picked the other day. He really executed the offense really well thought he missed on a couple reads. I thought that he really could hit Callaway another couple of times. And you know what I was I was disappointed at some we’re talking about positive now but I was disappointed at Don’s a little bit with Hilton’s play calling in the first half especially but I really thought Gueron delivered the ball on Tom. I was really watching you know that that clock we talk about and I’ve talked about many times and I thought is it 10:00 was a lot better he rewrote the away from pressure a couple times delivered some extra IGCSE. You know the only time that he where we got he had a couple times when Kennedy with Doenitz center but you know including the first game which really put us in a bond. But Garen Tonneau really played a mistake free game and I think that’s something to really be encouraged about. And when you kind of expound upon that and really talk about you know the entire passing game I don’t think Timoci I think we just kind of saw because of what Tennessee and passing game can be because Palmer looked a ton better than he did last year. Jennings and Callaway. Calloway who looked exceptional. Jennings

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:15:11] Yep

Brad Shepard: [00:15:12] Played pretty well when he was in there

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:15:13] Yep

Brad Shepard: [00:15:14] And then dominant what Anderson looks like at the red. So I’m encouraged I’m really encouraged by Bob Gueron Tarnow number one and Bob the entire passing game that was much better than I really thought it would be. I thought the running game would kind of curious and and really you know those guys I felt like we should have passed. Football.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:15:34] Yep. Negative

Brad Shepard: [00:15:38] You know the negative thing more than the secondary because and that we talked about it last week and we wrote about it last week but when you have a young secondary with are when you’ve got a secondary that’s a mixture of older slow players and young athletes that have no idea what they’re doing. You absolutely have to help them by getting pressure on the quarterback and the defensive line. Slash pass rushers or just non-existence. Greer had all day throw football. They never harassed him. They were rarely hit him. And Greer was able to just kind of sit back there and dissect the defense. And that does not bode well. Everybody wants to say secondary Secondary secondary. I mean that’s that’s not fair to those kids. I mean because that’s what disappointed as anybody in Buchanan and Abernathy did. And I thought major warrior played a very poor game. I think we’re going to get better play out of him. But man those kids at times they were Letten slow moving plays developed and people were going Bonda because Greer had all the time in the world to put it to the football and the pass rush has got to get better. And even though I thought that Prewett made some bad calls by trying to call some corner blitzes and get those in would you ended up with safeties back there. Man coverage that killed Tennessee and they had end West Virginia exploited man coverage all night or all day. I really thought that it was trying to find a way to manufacture some sort of pass rush. And when you do that you’re going to leave players on arms that’s just you can’t you can’t season seven and have six back. You know there’s not that many out there. And I thought Timoci you know even when they blitzed they struggled to get the quarterback. And you can’t do that when you’re inexperienced and and or not talented. And so the

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:17:40] Yeah.

Brad Shepard: [00:17:40] Pass rush was it has to improve.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:17:44] Yeah

Brad Shepard: [00:17:44] And at this point

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:17:44] I’m sorry. Are

Brad Shepard: [00:17:48] I

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:17:48] You

Brad Shepard: [00:17:48] Was

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:17:48] Down

Brad Shepard: [00:17:48] Just going

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:17:48] With

Brad Shepard: [00:17:48] Say

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:17:49] The negative

Brad Shepard: [00:17:49] At this point you well know I’m at this point you have to try other people you have to really hope that that Jordan Allen and really hope that you know Andre Johnson those guys you have to play those kids because they’re not going to be any worse than what a guy like cango was on Saturday. They’re just not so polite and you hope Lott comes home in the game these next two games are for fonde and some of those guys maybe Peterson that has absolutely no idea what he’s doing right now but is super talented I mean maybe you get these feet the feet wet against some of these teams that they can’t beat you and try to find some players that can get to the quarterback. Because if Tennessee can’t manufacture pass rush Jake Bentley drew law to tag Ebola and I can’t ever pronounce his name. But Kyle Shurmur and guys like that are going to kill us or

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:18:41] Yeah.

Brad Shepard: [00:18:42] It is going to kill us.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:18:44] Mine is the center. He had it he had a rough start for one year but that sounds just like that just a you know a brain problem. You know just real quick. Right. So everybody makes mistakes. But there were a couple of those. And then the thing I was really disappointed in just watching one of the replays after he missed a couple of blocks on a play the I think it was Jordan still got outside but he was just jogged into the play you know so it was effort on top of making those mistakes for me on that one. So I hope that was just a just a one game thing that he’s going to learn from it and get better because he seems like he’s got the talent for it. Hope he will Opie gets it together. Last last last positive unless

Brad Shepard: [00:19:38] Well

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:19:38] You want to

Brad Shepard: [00:19:38] As

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:19:38] Do

Brad Shepard: [00:19:38] Much

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:19:38] Too.

Brad Shepard: [00:19:38] As I

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:19:39] You

Brad Shepard: [00:19:39] Want

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:19:39] Can

Brad Shepard: [00:19:39] To say

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:19:39] Do two.

Brad Shepard: [00:19:40] Well now I’ll touch on the one that nobody wants to talk about because it’s not sexy enough. But I was worried about I was worried about special teams I thought that Joe Doyle did a good job on the football. I mean that’s something that didn’t really matter in this game but it’s going to matter it’s some game down the road. And and that was encouraging because I mean these are Edger Reisz Rennies or Verga you know and they beat out the the you know the number two corner in the nation and authority plenty pretty well the other day. And I think that Tennessee you know they need some consistency after losing a guy like Trevor Daniel who just beat out veteran Shane Lechler for the Texans and you know you don’t you don’t just replace golfers like that and Doyle did a really good job the other day. So I was encouraged by that because that’s going to be that’s going to be big later in the season when you know after the gauntlet Tennessee runs and again some of those teams that maybe you know it’s a little more on only an even keel an even playing field was dinsey. But you know the other thing that really was encouraging was Jim Jordan. I mean you know that guy know we we saw kind of you know glimpses of what he could do in the spring game. And I thought that you know this is this is this is the guy they recruited Ptomaine say we want to about Booch I’ve said plenty but that was a root recruiting evaluation Jim. I thought it was a really good pickup when they got him there only a couple teams that liked and he was a basketball player remains an accolade.

Brad Shepard: [00:21:10] And you know Tennessee North Carolina there was another team I can’t remember who won Ole Miss or somebody who only had there for you know legit offers and it came down to Tennessee North Carolina and they were able to get Jordan to come come to Tennessee and that kid you know he’s athletic and not only as yet licky runs heart and he runs with that protest trust me and said the other day on Monday I believe it was watching watching him run makes me want to play harder. And that’s your bell Cal talk and you know the best player thing. And so I’m not I still believe it’s going to be a running back by committee Chandler and do some things that other kids on that offense can. I thought London had a couple good hard nose runs and but you know Tennessee was really struggling to move the football on the ground early and it helped her go into that little that little catch of the old talls pitch to the agent in Jordan you know Jordan might surprise us and I don’t know how those plays are going to work against Alabama Georgia. You’re going to have to have a tough runner at those times because those names are going to hit you. And you know Jordan I’m not saying he’s going to be a thousand yard rusher this year because or motos that the offensive lines got improves inefficiently but the halo is like a very good player. I’m really excited to see how he develops over the next three years. He’s one of those guys I feel like no kid can be a major part of this moving forward.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:22:34] My second positive just just because you mentioned that you were sort of disappointed and Hilton’s play calling. I actually was kind of pleased with it. The fact that things were were so bad early on and it wasn’t just because player’s mistakes it was that he was trying to run into a box that was stacked against the run. You know and he didn’t just say you know I know this will work eventually if we just keep going to it. You know he actually changed

Brad Shepard: [00:23:03] Where are

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:23:03] What he was doing and started having success. So I was I was happy to see that adjustments on the fly. Not waiting for halftime. Not waiting for the next game. Or never. You know. So we’re beginning to run out of time a little bit. So give me 60 seconds on what you want to see against you this week.

Brad Shepard: [00:23:26] Well I mean you know I’d like to see Tennessee expand the passing game a little bit. I want to see them run a more vertical. Things often simply that that’s really what I’d like to see. I want to see them you know run some deep patterns use the center of the field a little bit more. We said run some slants and crosses. It seems to me that they are not utilizing that part of the field and Tennessee never did it in the Bush era. So I don’t know if it’s just might be the beef gave them in the first Goodhand but I really really like as as I mentioned I really like what I see from the receiving corps so I’m curious to kind of see that develop and want to see you know what Anderson more are involved in the passing game. So that would be that be what I would like to see on offense and you know defensively are really they as I said they’ve got to manufacture a pass rush so she’s not going to beat you if you run. JJ Peterson out there for 24 blades even even though that could get literally just got on campus. I don’t know that he’ll play this week because I know that there’s like an acclimation

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:24:32] Yeah

Brad Shepard: [00:24:32] Period after the NCAA clears you.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:24:34] You’d

Brad Shepard: [00:24:34] So I’m not saying

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:24:35] Have to

Brad Shepard: [00:24:35] That

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:24:35] Play

Brad Shepard: [00:24:35] You

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:24:35] Just

Brad Shepard: [00:24:35] Run

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:24:35] In shorts.

Brad Shepard: [00:24:38] In the game

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:24:39] Yeah.

Brad Shepard: [00:24:40] You know at this point he would probably still start. But no I’m just kidding. But you know. But I mean seriously throw him to the side and let’s let’s talk about Andre Johnson. Let’s talk about it. I mean the Allen kid the JUCO it for him from San Francisco. Let’s talk about you know Austin Smith I mean a guy that I’d like to see you know a little bit more of a woman. Let’s pin the ears and have some guys that can get after to the quarterback. I mean you don’t ever want to say anything negative about a kid. But. I’ve seen Jonathan Kombo fall off a block maybe two or three times in his entire career. TIMOCI so maybe you know maybe the lot’s going to come on but I didn’t see a whole lot Saturday that made me have a lot of faith in it. So let’s trust some other thing. Let’s try some other players and just because they can get the quarterback issue doesn’t mean the candidates order. But you know Tennessee’s got to play some kids got to try to make some things up. And we’ve got to try to find some sort of semblance of a pass rush and the front 7

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:25:51] Yeah I want to see a score

Brad Shepard: [00:25:53] Or

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:25:53] That looks like the ones that are SGC brethren put up against their cupcakes something that’s going to make me feel like we can have hope against Florida. That’s what I want to see. So

Brad Shepard: [00:26:07] Like a 55 to 3 or something.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:26:09] Yeah you know

Brad Shepard: [00:26:11] Yeah.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:26:11] At least getting close to 50 and holding them understand 10 something just a blowout as long as it’s a blot. Want to see it that’s probably bad expectation to go into a game with. But that will make me feel better. So and right now I just want to feel better. So

Brad Shepard: [00:26:27] Sure absolutely.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:26:28] Yeah.

Brad Shepard: [00:26:29] I mean we’re we need that because we’re not going to have no we’re talking about maybe five or six field good games this year. So that’s

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:26:38] Yeah

Brad Shepard: [00:26:38] If that’s it. I mean 6 if we’re if we’re really happy

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:26:41] Yeah

Brad Shepard: [00:26:41] And that’s you know that’s that’s that’s bad. And that was not good. So

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:26:45] Yeah.

Brad Shepard: [00:26:46] Let’s be happy this week

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:26:48] All right. Well that’ll do it for the game day Aracataca podcast please subscribe via iTunes or Google and give us orating give us a review. Bonus points if you use the words next. Randy Sanders and you have to spell it

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Brad Shepard: [00:27:18] But not but not make it tailors with

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:27:21] No we don’t want that. No. Well that might be good for hits I don’t know. But anyway so for Brad Shepard I’m Joel Hollingsworth and this has been the game to rocket up podcast.

Brad Shepard: [00:27:37] That got to look for my wife.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:27:40] Well as it should.

Brad Shepard: [00:27:42] Because

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:27:42] We need a chaperone

Brad Shepard: [00:27:43] It’s your

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:27:44] For you. You also confirmed to by the way that you have no idea what 60 seconds is.

Brad Shepard: [00:27:50] No.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:27:50] So

Brad Shepard: [00:27:51] No not at all. Oh big I’m capable of doing anything in 60 seconds

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:27:59] I’ll leave that one alone.

Brad Shepard: [00:28:01] Yeah look it up.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:28:02] Yeah.

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Notes

[00:00:12]
I’m leaving that robo-transcription error because I find it hilarious. 🙂

 

 

Transcript

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:00:12] This is the game day Iraqi top podcast. Joel Hollingsworth and I’m with Brad Shepherd. Brad how are you doing.

 

Brad Shepard: [00:00:21] I am doing great. It’s game week.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:00:23] It is game week. We’re all feeling good about that and I’m going to ask you the same thing that I asked Will which is what is the last thing you that you ate

 

Brad Shepard: [00:00:35] What is the last

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:00:35] You

 

Brad Shepard: [00:00:36] Thing

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:00:36] Weren’t

 

Brad Shepard: [00:00:36] That

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:00:36] Expecting.

 

Brad Shepard: [00:00:36] I ate. Believe it or not this is a horrible horrible answer for that question which is I actually just ate chicken from Long John Silver’s for the first time in like two years. And it is not a good thing.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:00:53] So you only have like a half hour before you need to go.

 

Brad Shepard: [00:00:56] Pretty much. It was nothing sounded good. So yeah really know what possessed me to do that. But

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:01:07] Long

 

Brad Shepard: [00:01:07] So far

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:01:07] John

 

Brad Shepard: [00:01:07] So

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:01:07] Silvers

 

Brad Shepard: [00:01:08] Good.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:01:08] We’ll get you especially the hushpuppies man. There’s nothing better than a good Hushpuppy.

 

Brad Shepard: [00:01:13] Man you know I love that place. But then I hate that place. After a little while

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:01:21] It is true.

 

Brad Shepard: [00:01:21] It’s bad but maybe it will be OK. I’m hoping I’m hoping so.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:01:26] All right. So vol stuff. I’m going to ask you the same question I asked Will on Monday and that is basically what are your what’s your top expected outcome for the Tennessee West Virginia game and then what are your backup plans. And here’s what I mean by that and I tell you my answers just so you can because I probably didn’t explain it very well. So I have run my stats preview thing and I was surprised that it only gave West Virginia an edge of between three and four. I was surprised because the line is still nine and a half to ten and a half although we’ll told me on Monday that the S&P has been updated to only four and a half. So maybe there’s something there. Not sure but anyway so my most expected outcome is West Virginia winning by three or four points. But I also think that because there’s such a potent offensive passing team that if they find a weakness and just keep exploiting it over and over and over again they could run away with it. So that’s my second most expected outcome. But then third is that because I think it’s going to be a 3 or 4 point game that also gives Tennessee the opportunity to maybe steal one in the end in a close game. So my expected outcomes in order are won West Virginia wins by three or four. Two West Virginia runs away with it and three Tennessee pulls out a close win. So what’s your most expected outcome and then what are your backup expectations.

 

Brad Shepard: [00:03:15] Yeah I mean that’s a great question and I’ve I’ve given it some thought actually because I’m trying to figure out what do I do or go into Saturday expecting. I mean I know you know kind of from my own personal expectations. There are two things I’m expecting about Saturday. Number one is it’s my little boy’s birthday so

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:03:36] Hey

 

Brad Shepard: [00:03:36] I’m expecting to be frantically running around crazy

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:03:39] And you’ll be

 

Brad Shepard: [00:03:39] On

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:03:39] Eating cake.

 

Brad Shepard: [00:03:39] Saturday. Yes I’ll be eating cake and my number two thing is that you know it’s going to be my first. It’s my first hand or a for Bleacher Report interviewing the winners and losers column which essentially turned out to be about 20 slots so it’s been a hectic busy day for me. And I’ve actually got some my buddy David Fujiyama in town from Asheville so that’s going to be bonkers that whole day is going to be crazy. I am going to watch the Tennessee game. I’m

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:04:10] You

 

Brad Shepard: [00:04:10] Going

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:04:10] Should.

 

Brad Shepard: [00:04:10] To

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:04:11] I’m

 

Brad Shepard: [00:04:11] Watch

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:04:11] Sorry

 

Brad Shepard: [00:04:11] Every play of it

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:04:12] I have. I have advice for you. I just have to jump in. Sorry. You should soak your cake

 

Brad Shepard: [00:04:17] Yes.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:04:17] And

 

Brad Shepard: [00:04:17] Yeah.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:04:17] 5 hour energy just like soak it.

 

Brad Shepard: [00:04:22] They need to do that because I’m going to have to get up at 7 to get to the park and get everything ready for the birthday and then I will absolutely be up until at least 2:00 a.m.. I mean that’s that’s that’s the drop dead. I mean. I mean that’s like. I mean I say to drop dead that’s the earliest that I’m going to. So it’s going to be just insane. I mean but you know like I said I’m I’m absolutely going to watch the Tennessee game every play of it. There’s no way that I would miss that game simply because you know obviously because I’m totally fine. But. But secondly because I have no idea what to expect. I mean it that really excites me. I mean I didn’t ever think as a reporter. I mean as somebody who lived that life I didn’t ever think that I would enjoy not really knowing what to expect but it’s kind of fun this year because and that’s that’s kind of my long intro. To answer your question but I agree with you as far as what I think my most expected outcome is I was thinking that the line should probably be about 5 or six. So I’m thinking you know somewhere around in there three three to six points that West Virginia wins by by three to six points. That’s that’s kind of what I expect. Only because you know I don’t think I mean the game really kind of feels. And I know it’s a it’s a different type of team than than Northwestern. But the game kind of feels northwesterly to me just because I don’t really think that anybody knows you know really.

 

Brad Shepard: [00:05:58] It’s just such a clash of supposed styles that we don’t really know what to expect. And I don’t think that Tennessee is going to have a decisive speed advantage like they had in that northwestern game. But also I’m not sure that Tennessee is not going to be able to just use the word dominate because coming off for an eight season you don’t dominate anything but Tennessee is going to be able. I don’t know that they’re not going to be able to successfully run the well against West Virginia too because I think West Virginia is not that good. So the only reason why I would give West Virginia the edge bar anywhere between four and six points is because I think that Tennessee doesn’t really know how to win games and and that’s going to maybe kind of spill over a little bit at least until they get their footing. So I think that’s my most expected outcome as a close loss my second most expected outcome though is Tennessee winning the game because I really believe and not running away with it but winning a close game. And it’s because I really do think that Tennessee is going to be able to move the football and score points against West Virginia. West Virginia’s best win last year came against an up and down our state team. And I know that we really couldn’t gauge what kind of football team that was later in the season once Greer got hurt. But even though they were a dangerous team at times last year with Greer they also were never a very good defensive team. And also they weren’t very good running the football so I don’t know that West Virginia’s balance is going to be where it needs to be and it all kind of you know it all kind of kind of hinges on Tennessee’s ability to slow down the pass so you know whether whether they’re the young quarterbacks are up to speed whether Tennessee can generate any pass rush.

 

Brad Shepard: [00:07:52] But I think that Tennessee is going to do is going to be able to control some possessions behind an offensive line that I think is going to be much improved and a running and a stable of running backs. I think it’s been a pleasant surprise us this year so my second most expect outcome is that Tennessee actually pulls through and wins the game and then third most expected. Like you said kind of your second is that you know the that we’re just overmatch the passing game and that you know we don’t have enough bullets with Gerome Tonota to you know to be able to match them in a in a shooting match. And so but. But I really don’t think that’s going to happen because I think the contrasting styles actually the Tennessee actually has some some things that could be it could go their way. I don’t think that roots want to blow smoke and he didn’t blow any smoke in the in the spring when he didn’t say much and he was very he was not very pleased with Tennessee and he seems pretty pleased right now. I don’t think that he thinks this is a great thing but I think he is. I think that he feels pretty good about their competitive edge about their development about their growth as a football team and

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:09:03] Yeah the change in tone has been very mysterious hasn’t it.

 

Brad Shepard: [00:09:08] Has and this is not you know as I said this is not a coach that comes from a pedigree of pomp and sunshine. His dad is not that kind of guys. We’ve learned throughout some interviews from some articles that have been done. That as a longtime high school football coach Saban obviously is not that kind of guy. It was not that in the spring so I’m a little excited it seems at least on the surface unless he’s just excited to play football and kind of get this year out of the way. And I do know that he’s told some recruits hey you know it’s going to be worse this year than what it’s going to be at any point during my tenure. But I feel like that might be just kind of buffering thing just in case. But he he seems quite confident and maybe not quietly confident that they’re going to win this game. But quietly confident that they’re going to be sneakily better than what a lot of people think that they’re going to be and maybe that were given credit for. I think that he’s played this game of love us really not knowing what to expect to perfection. And if there is a little games gamesmanship on Saturday then I think that benefits Tennessee.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:10:24] So they’re underestimating our sneakiness as what you’re saying.

 

Brad Shepard: [00:10:28] I’m hoping that that’s the case. I definitely would not go out on a limb and predict and see to win the football game.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:10:36] Yeah.

 

Brad Shepard: [00:10:36] But I also don’t think that it’s farfetched at all to think that that could be when I know coming out of that day.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:10:43] So suppose that one of your top two expectations happens that Tennessee loses a close game or maybe even wins. How does that impact your expectations for the for the season or does

 

Brad Shepard: [00:10:57] It does and I said that today in speaking with some friends about you asked me exactly that question. You know I think that we’re going to tell a whole lot about this team on Saturday because if they can come out and beat West Virginia then I think that they’re going to have a lot of confidence in themselves because this is a game. It’s a game that nobody really expects them to win. West Virginia is a top 10 team in some publications are a top 20 team and essentially all publications and you know this is a team that’s dangerous offensively a lot of people are predicting big things for them this year in the Big 12. And if Tennessee comes out and wins this game I do not think Florida is a good football team and I like Dan Mullen. I think Dan Mullin is a very good developer developer of talent. I don’t think he’s a great recruiter but I think he does a good job of maximizing the players on the roster so I think Ford is going to get better as the year progresses. I think they’ve got the same quarterback question marks that Tennessee has at this point and I don’t recall at all.

 

Brad Shepard: [00:12:06] I don’t think anybody will recall having very many offensive weapons and Calloway’s no longer there and you know they don’t have a they don’t have a lot of players that we know well and beef fans they always have pretty good a pretty good sense but offensively they’re kind of like Tennesseean in that they’re searching for playmakers and I think that there have been a lot more positive vibes coming out of Tennessee’s offensive. Hey we may have found some things camp for us. And so I’m not sure that Tennessee shouldn’t be favored to win that game in Knoxville. And so that’s if Tennessee wins this this game this week. I think you could see some positive momentum early in the season if they lose the game like a lot of people were saying I could see this team going to six and having to make a bowl game. And so I really do think that this game and the Florida game are the two biggest swing games of the season and it’s going to determine a whole lot about the makeup of this team. The progress of this game and whether or not this team can can make it to a

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:13:17] So you heard it here first Brad Sheppard says we’re going to blow out West Virginia and then beat Florida.

 

Brad Shepard: [00:13:23] Absolute. Yes.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:13:25] All right.

 

Brad Shepard: [00:13:25] Yes.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:13:25] I thought I got that right.

 

Brad Shepard: [00:13:26] Actually I actually would pick Tennessee to be. I think I’m gonna pick Tennessee to be the if even if if one of those first two scenarios happened in I2C

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:13:38] Ok

 

Brad Shepard: [00:13:38] Gets blown out by West Virginia obviously the things I don’t think forward is that good. I think they’re going to be fine once Imrie Jones it’s floating but he’s not he’s not the quarterback. I mean he’s not even one of the top two quarterbacks. So I just think that they’re kind of fitness square peg into a round hole kind of thing with with Frank Trask and I just don’t see that. I don’t see them starting out so well. Or maybe maybe I’m wrong but that’s that’s I think this is going to be a tough year.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:14:10] Is that the only sort of upset you you are sort of anticipating at this point or do you think South Carolina two or Missouri how you feel

 

Brad Shepard: [00:14:19] Now

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:14:19] On those

 

Brad Shepard: [00:14:21] No I think South Carolina is better than Tennessee. I really like Bentley really like a healthy DeBow Samual. I think that the chances are going to take on the mentality of much champ. I picked them. I just got finished writing a 5000 word SCC preview and a lot of research on it and I really really like South Carolina. This year I think I think Georgia is still going to win the East and I really hate saying that I like South Carolina because I really don’t like much champ and I don’t know that there’s any I don’t I don’t think there’s any longevity any staying power in the in what they’ve built. But I’m like it’s kind of like the Missouri window. I think South Carolina and Missouri could could either one of those names that really kind of break out and have a really good year but then you know once once lock goes pro next year it’s kind of like OK what next it Missouri and and maybe maybe South Carolina I’ve got a couple of year window with with Bentley if he if he comes back next year which I think you will all think he’s a pro prospect Yeah. But you know I like that team a lot better than most. I don’t think that they’re explosive offensively or anything but but I think their defenses are going to be snakey good and I think that they’re probably going to finish second in the east

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:15:36] So another sneaky reference. You’re feeling very sneaky this evening.

 

Brad Shepard: [00:15:41] What a lot of sneaking around

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:15:43] Sneakiness

 

Brad Shepard: [00:15:43] In a

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:15:44] Yeah well that’ll do it for this edition of the game day Iraqi podcast subscribe on iTunes. You can find us at Soundcloud as well. If you’re listening via talk show you what do you do when we’re getting ready to disappear. So make the track make the switch over to soundcloud subscribe via iTunes in that way. You know we just follow you around so you don’t even have to worry about it. So just go do that. Also while you’re at it give us a review. Give us a rating. Bonus points if you say something nice about Brad

 

Brad Shepard: [00:16:24] Yes

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:16:24] Because

 

Brad Shepard: [00:16:25] Please.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:16:25] Because we know that’s very difficult. Did you or did you read the transcript that I said that before you didn’t did you.

 

Brad Shepard: [00:16:32] No I didn’t read that.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:16:33] Yeah. Yeah. You all have to go back and listen to that. I figured you would have heard it because I figured you didn’t hear it because I figured you would have given me a call while you were driving your car after I said that. But anyway

 

Brad Shepard: [00:16:47] No

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:16:47] So yeah.

 

Brad Shepard: [00:16:47] I need to go see that now

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:16:50] So subscribe via iTunes. We’re having shorter podcasts this this season is shorter and more frequent two or three a week. We might also have a longer one with the whole gang together. So again just subscribe and we will automatically pop up on your commute to or from work. So for Brad Shepherd I’m Joel Hollingsworth and this has been the game day on Rocky Top podcast. All right

 

Brad Shepard: [00:17:26] All right.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:17:27] So that Long John Silvers kicking in yet.

 

Brad Shepard: [00:17:32] Oh no. But still a lot of people it affects the the other way. Me It just gives me really bad heartburn indigestion. I mean like I’m like really you know every Belchers and stuff.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:17:48] All right well let’s hear it.

 

Brad Shepard: [00:17:50] Makes me feel not very good but it’s not kicked in and I’m open that I really had like a I had like a kid’s meal. I mean because I was really not angry. We went to Nashville this weekend I went to a Taylor Swift concert last night to bring that up because it calls into question my manhood. But my

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:18:07] It’s all right.

 

Brad Shepard: [00:18:07] Boy

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:18:08] I admitted watching it and really liking Hannah Montana. At one point and my kids have never forgotten about it.

 

Brad Shepard: [00:18:17] Yeah it was a really good concert it was it with.

 

Notes

[00:15:43]
Yeah. I meant “shorter,” not “fewer.” D’oh.

 

 

Transcript

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:00:02] This is the Gameday on Rocky Top podcast, I’m Joel Hollingsworth. And I’m with Wil Shelton this evening. How are you doing Will.

 

Will Shelton: [00:00:09] I’m doing great. This is the best time of year. How are you.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:00:12] This IS THE BEST TIME OF YEAR. I’m I’m very well. I wanted to ask you one question What is the last thing that you ate.

 

Will Shelton: [00:00:19] What is the last thing that I ate.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:00:20] The last thing

 

Will Shelton: [00:00:21] I

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:00:21] The

 

Will Shelton: [00:00:21] Had I had some frozen grapes about five minutes ago the really good

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:00:26] You know frozen grapes are really under under appreciated because grapes are good by themselves but you

 

Will Shelton: [00:00:33] Yes

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:00:34] Freeze those babies. Good stuff.

 

Will Shelton: [00:00:36] Yes they’re very good. I broke it tooth off on a frozen grape once where I had a cavity and I didn’t realize it. So the fact that I still eat them despite a catastrophic event in my mouth about 10 years ago on a frozen grape is the best advertisement I can give. Best endorsement I could give to frozen grapes.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:00:53] Very good. Are you with the red grape persuasion or the White slash green

 

Will Shelton: [00:01:01] I don’t do the white slash Green. Frozen. I like I prefer the white slash green on the unfrozen grape. But for a good frozen grape you need the red

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:01:11] Ok.

 

Will Shelton: [00:01:11] Is my

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:01:12] All right well that’s like just like your opinion man.

 

Will Shelton: [00:01:17] Yeah right

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:01:19] All right. So vol stuff I wanted to ask. This is going to be a quickie podcast. So I wanted to ask what you thought your most realistic expectation for the upcoming West Virginia game is and if that doesn’t make sense. Let me explain mine real quick. I think that after I looked at the stats that I think the 10 or the nine and a half to ten and a half line is maybe a little bit high. I know that if you’re just looking at stats from last year you got real problems because you know that was last year but I think we’re going to be a little bit better. And I think West Virginia is going to be a little bit better because their stats are based on three games without will Greer. But on balance I think that it’s not going to be that much different or I don’t have a lot of reason to think there’s going to be a lot different. So my stats machine says between three and four OK. So my most realistic expectation for the game is that West Virginia wins by three or four. But I also think that because they’re so powerful on offense and especially in the passing game that if they identify a weakness and exploit it over and over again they could run away with it. So that’s my second most realistic expectation. But because it’s only three or four points. I also think that Tennessee could actually steal a close one too. So my top three in sort of expectations for the game. Least surprising outcomes is that West Virginia wins by 3 or 4 1 2 that they run away with it and three that Tennessee pulls out a close one. So those are my three what what would be your top 1 and what are sort of your backup plans as far as expected outcomes.

 

Will Shelton: [00:03:21] All right. Let me give it to you with a little less data there. The outcome I expect most is we come out of the West Virginia game thinking Tennessee is going to have an opportunity to beat Florida. Whether that is via you know certainly if we beat West Virginia I have no problem thinking we’re going to be Florida. But I expect Tennessee is a good goal for this game state Tennessee to play well enough that we come out of this thing thinking. All right. In a couple of weeks we can give this thing a run for its money against a little lighter competition at home et cetera et cetera. So I think that’s I think that’s number one. I will say on the on the stats front the updated S&P rankings Bill Connelly the SB Nation also have West Virginia down to like four and a half.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:04:12] Oh, cool.

 

Will Shelton: [00:04:13] That’s a big jump from 10. Tennessee got a boost from guessing here. I know he got a boost. I’m guessing the boost comes from Brandon Kennedy’s insertion as a transfer some of West Virginia loss. Those kinds of things so

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:04:29] And foot

 

Will Shelton: [00:04:29] That

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:04:29] And mouth

 

Will Shelton: [00:04:29] Number was

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:04:30] Disease that’s got to be worth

 

Will Shelton: [00:04:31] Right

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:04:31] A couple of points.

 

Will Shelton: [00:04:32] Fred right. It’s worth at least two tenths of a point. So you know that is encouraging to me. I said this on the radio on Friday. When you when we try it out there. Hey none of the advanced models like West Virginia as much as the eye test. Let’s remember first of all the eye test loves West Virginia because they’re so much fun to watch. You know like of course we love West like they’re super fun to watch. So yeah they’re naturally going to be overrated in that sense. But if you’re going to throw advance stats in the mix yes advanced stats don’t like West Virginia as much as human polls and the tests do. But advanced stats really hate Tennessee. So you know you have to you have to kind of balances things out because what’s going into those bad stats is all those games last fall that Tennessee played that we did care about the outcome after South Carolina but the computers don’t care that we had moved on from Butch Jones who were more worried about our head coach. They’re using all that data to say hey Tennessee was terrible and all that’s going in the machine. So you got to kind of take both sides of that. So I think I would expect Tennessee to play well enough that we feel good about Florida.

 

Will Shelton: [00:05:41] I would I would still I don’t know if I’m just getting old or what it is but like this is the first year where I’ve still got six days here but I haven’t added on a win like I’ve thought we were 6 and 6 in April. And this is August 26 and I think we’re probably six and 6. So I’ve been about three out of 10 on West Virginia which is to say I think if they play it ten times I think we win three maybe three and a half. And I think you take those you know like that’s that’s thought. I’m happy to know because if you’re taking three and a half that’s essentially saying if we play it three times we win one. So you know I think that’s that’s a good spot for Tennessee to be in. So I would say we can’t we can’t talk ourselves into so much year where we get disappointed with a good performance in this game if it doesn’t end up in victory. But I will say there’s just a nice little you know it will be a lot of fun to win on Saturday. It would be a nice cozy little victory without any any attachments of yeah but or.

 

Will Shelton: [00:06:48] Well we won this game but we’ve already lost three others that we shouldn’t loss or that sort of stuff. So I think those two things for sure. And then I think just we will learn a lot about. I think Tennessee’s relative strengths and some of their relative weaknesses. For instance if Tennessee really wants to run the ball 60 65 times in this game and just line it up and go they you know they’re going to have opportunities to do that against West Virginia that they won’t against Florida. How many times will they actually just say you know what let’s just light up and go let’s go right at them and see if they can stop it. If Tennessee is legitimately bad in the passing game here and they just can’t cover West Virginia man to man they can’t get pressure on the quarterback that sort of stuff. I think that’s a relative weakness but it may not be an overall weakness because we’re not going to see the sort of passing game again for a while. So even if you know on the one hand if Tennessee runs for like four hundred fifty yards I don’t know that that means that we’ll run for 450 yards against Florida. And if we get house in the passing game and we think oh no Alontae Taylor’s terrible and all this other stuff I don’t know that that means that he actually is it may just be West Virginia is really good.

 

Will Shelton: [00:08:03] So there will be even if he wins and rolls via the ground game that may not be a huge sign of things to come and if West Virginia rolls and rolls US up through the air that may not be a huge sign of things to come. So I think there are there’s just a lot of unique qualities about this particular game where you know winning or losing. You never want to do with the first game anyway. But I think winning or losing. You don’t want to lean too much on it. So I think those are kind of I don’t know if that answers your question but those are kind of the three things I think the most Tennesse is going to play well enough that we come out of it feeling good about our chances against Florida. I would I would say Tennessee wins this game 3 3 out of 10 times. And I think we may see some relative strengths and some relative weaknesses but I wouldn’t put too much stock in that. You know going forward from here

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:08:54] Yeah I was going to ask. Although I think you just answered it but maybe a little more ambiguously. Let me let me ask that go ahead and ask the second question which was going to be supposed that Tennesse only loses by three or four or that maybe even a win. What sort of impact does that have on the rest of the season. I know you just said you don’t want to put too much stock in the one game you don’t know that it might mean anything against Florida but does it change your overall expectation for the entire season very much does it does it just the sort of general feel of confidence. Does that do anything for you the rest of the season.

 

Will Shelton: [00:09:38] I think it would do a couple of things. If Tennessee wins. First of all winning against West Virginia creates the expectation that you will go to a bowl game. It would move from the hope to the expectation for one reason because you’re already one to know at that point you’ve got one you know you’re going to get three against easiest you use happen and Charlotte. So that’s for now you’re just talking about OK if we to be Kentucky and Vanderbilt we’re six and six. So a Tennessee beats West Virginia. Then the expectation becomes going into a bowl game

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:10:10] And

 

Will Shelton: [00:10:10] Because

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:10:10] If

 

Will Shelton: [00:10:10] I

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:10:10] You

 

Will Shelton: [00:10:10] Mean

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:10:10] Can

 

Will Shelton: [00:10:10] You

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:10:10] Beat

 

Will Shelton: [00:10:10] Just think

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:10:10] West

 

Will Shelton: [00:10:10] About

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:10:11] Virginia you think you should be able to be Vandy and Kentucky right.

 

Will Shelton: [00:10:14] Yeah I mean that would be really disappointing right. Barring catastrophic injuries which Lord knows we’ve seen them but that would be really disappointing to beat West Virginia and still finish five and seven. I mean something something really bad has has to happen there. That would mean one in seven in the SEC if ifs or some sort of unforeseen disaster against YouTube or Charlotte or ETSU. If you beat West Virginia and don’t go to a bowl your one in seven in the SCC. So that’s that’s no good. You know we should just said it’s a piece inside here to say if Tennessee wins again like I say it would be the sort of celebration that we haven’t seen around here in in the Florida win in 2016 would certainly be bigger than Georgia when the way it ended bigger. But I think you’d have to go back to Butch’s first year against South Carolina to find that sort of a win like that made you say like hey this is going to work. You know before there were strings attached to it or negative perceptions or anything like that. So just to sort of win that you could totally enjoy without having to factory and all the other stuff. It’s

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:11:24] Yeah.

 

Will Shelton: [00:11:25] Been a minute for that. And you got to go back to Butch’s first year good South Carolina which ultimately didn’t stand up. Kiffin against Georgia. That first year ultimately didn’t stand up because Kiffin left. You know it’s it’s it’s been a long time since something like that.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:11:41] Right.

 

Will Shelton: [00:11:41] And you could still have. Again I’ve made this point several times that people Kirby Smart. They beat North Carolina in Week 1 in his first year in Atlanta was a huge win. It was not a pretty game but it was a big sort of initial win for them that North Carolina seems not as good as this West Virginia at all. But winning that game helped them manage losing to Vanderbilt later in the year. That was part of part of the process. They were seven and five. You know but they got that first one they got off that momentum. So you know Georgia hasn’t been through nearly what we’ve been through the last year years so there will be a whole separate thing there. That winning would do. But I do think this too about playing close this. It feels a little bit to me like the 2014 Oklahoma game at Oklahoma where I think Tennessee was like a 19 point underdog in that game or something like that and actually lost by 24 was a late score. That made it 34 to 10. But I remember most of those coming out of that game and I wrote about ourselves you know Tennessee was competitive in that game for about three quarters.

 

Will Shelton: [00:12:51] There was there was a costly drop or an interception in the end zone in that game. I don’t I don’t. Maybe just Jason Croom was involved on that play. I can’t remember exactly what happened but we had a shot in the endzone that didn’t work out where the game could have been closer or something like that. But I remember coming out of that Oklahoma game and thinking OK we can we can do some damage as you were going to be good and that’s a game we lost by 24. Now that Oklahoma team again not a one to one comparison they were much better than his West Virginia team should be but if Tennessee loses by 9 in this game again I think we’re going to come out of it saying OK we can we can beat Florida 1 and 2 we can we can we can invest in this team. We can watch this team maybe not against Alabama but we can watch that same week to week with the expectation that they’re going to have a chance to win. So I think those are the things that that a close game even if you don’t win a close game will provide you with those sorts of things.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:13:52] Yeah it not only would be a big win if we won or sort of you know. Nobody likes the term moral victory. But you know some validation it wouldn’t just be a big win if it happened. It would also be validation of the hope you know that we’re wanting to put in to prove that oh we made the right decision and we can expect good things. Maybe not against Florida this year or whatever but we can expect good things over the next couple of years that that will be a big thing. So anything you want to add to that for I cut you loose.

 

Will Shelton: [00:14:32] No I think it’s again. I feel like I have been more level we should all be you know now by now after all these coaching changes and all this I don’t I don’t feel like this is again the line is going to have roots in people that are totally unbiased. S&P like say he’s got it down to four and a half. I mean this isn’t crazy talk. It’s hey we’re going to go play a team that were between four and a half and ten points an underdog to on a neutral field with a brand new coach who knows what’s going to happen but I think there’s enough possibility that this isn’t this isn’t crazy talk is not grasping at straws it’s a like saying you played 10 times I think he went three and you hope that Saturday turns into turns into one of those three.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:15:15] All right well that’ll do it for this edition of the Gameday on Rocky Top Podcast. Follow us Subscribe via iTunes or soundcloud. Give us a rating. Give us a review. Bonus points for using the word room Mamma Mia. I don’t know. I just was in the mood to give bonus points and I

 

Will Shelton: [00:15:38] Sure.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:15:39] And I started down that road before I thought it out. So

 

Will Shelton: [00:15:42] That’s right.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:15:43] Mamma Mia it is. You use the word Mamma Mia. You get bonus points is like Whose Line Is It Anyway. Know the points don’t matter. But hey there they are. So anyway. That’ll do it. We will have actually a another podcast or two. This week we’re going to be doing fewer but more often and the next one will be with Brad probably go live on Tuesday or Wednesday so stick around for that subscribe. Be sure to read all week we’re into game mode starting tomorrow morning Monday morning and hope you have a great evening. Think I’ll do a different. I wonder how many how many season tickets Dave Ramsey has canceled just on his own because you

 

Will Shelton: [00:16:30] Should

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:16:30] Can’t

 

Will Shelton: [00:16:30] Have

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:16:30] Put you can’t put him on the credit card.

 

Will Shelton: [00:16:33] Threat should have should have asked him that. But I’ve met him a couple of times I should have asked him either of those times. But alas it has not has not worked out. So.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:16:42] Yeah how many lives has he ruined. Yeah.

 

Bookmarks

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Is Joel being paranoid about the receiving corps, or might they be vulnerable to depth concerns?

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Which new guy is Will most looking forward to seeing this fall?

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Is Joel crazy to admit that he’s starting to feel better about the cornerback position?

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How much should we embrace the expectation that the new coaching staff will help the team better realize its potential than the last?

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Where does Tennessee’s opener against West Virginia rank as an opening tone-setter?

 

 

Transcript

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:00:15] This is the Gameday on Rocky Top Podcast. I’m Joel Hollingsworth and I’m here with Will Shelton. How are you doing tonight, Will?

 

Will Shelton: [00:00:22] I’m doing great. I heard that you guys suspended me for selling my shoes and I was curious as to which pair of new balance cross trainers that were you know so highly sought after that everyone wanted but other than that I’m doing great.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:00:33] New Balance has this very lucrative 10000 dollar deal with Tennessee now.

 

Will Shelton: [00:00:39] Right. Ten thousand dollar deal.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:00:42] Yeah.

 

Will Shelton: [00:00:43] That’s funny. I do have some orange and gray New Balance. But they were purchased before and the smoky Gray came in and out of fashion. So. That’s. Are they even, you’re still in the merchandise game, like are they Are they even making smoky grey stuff still. I know that’s the big rumor. That we’re not going to wear it in an official capacity anymore. They still make it. Cause I guess people to buy it. Right.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:01:06] Yeah. You know I think they probably will this year. I haven’t seen the fall stuff from the Coliseum yet but you know that stuff is ordered and made and designed a long time in advance so

 

Will Shelton: [00:01:21] Right.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:01:21] They probably are are you know upset because they probably made all the grey stuff they made everybody preorder it and now they’re not going to wear it at all. But you know it’s kind of like the black stuff even when the school decided not to ever wear black again. The fans still liked it and still wanted it. So I don’t see grey going away. It’s a nice little color combination. Even if the team doesn’t wear it but

 

Will Shelton: [00:01:51] I wonder

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:01:51] Some

 

Will Shelton: [00:01:51] How much of that was Fulmer too right because you know maybe it’s just with football but it is Fulmer or are these other you know isn’t going to have a passionate thing of softball should not wear smoky gray or is it just going to be football. I don’t know. I’ve got plenty of it in my closet too so I understand.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:02:09] Yeah I don’t know. You know the first question I was going to ask you is whether or not your rage has had subsided after last night’s Braves Game.

 

Will Shelton: [00:02:17] Well yes mostly. First of all Acuña not hurt you. I don’t think he caught Brad live when that was happening. Right. Because there’s just it was the most upset about something that happed in baseball in years years which is a good sign that the Braves were that good. But I mean I cannot imagine a worse set of circumstances where you have the pitcher for a 48 and 74 team hits a guy with a five game homerun streak just because he doesn’t want to get him out or whatever so but yeah Acuna is fine and healthy and currently in the lineup tonight and you know they only suspended the guy six games which is not a that’s not enough to prevent some sort of blowback because the Braves and Marlins play again next week. But

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:03:09] Well and pitchers

 

Will Shelton: [00:03:09] Yet

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:03:09] Don’t even play every game right. I mean they only play every

 

Will Shelton: [00:03:12] So

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:03:12] Six games anyway.

 

Will Shelton: [00:03:13] Yeah. So you pushback a start day and so I would not advise him pitching it gives the Atlanta Braves next week though if he values his health that might leave him on the side. So yeah the Braves or the Braves are up 3 2 right now. On the Rockies. So yes I am. My wife is the biggest St. Louis Card . . . like her whole family is. They love the Cardinals more than I love the Braves. They love the Cardinals like I love the Vols. And. Even she was. We. Have Acuna jersey for our son Because my

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:03:48] I

 

Will Shelton: [00:03:48] Wife

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:03:48] Saw

 

Will Shelton: [00:03:48] And I

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:03:48] It

 

Will Shelton: [00:03:48] Went to. We lucked into Acuna’s home debut earlier this year. And when we were. My son wasn’t there because I was too young to appreciate it. But. We bought him a little jersey. Because we figured Acuña as you know. 20 years old and might actually still be with the Braves by the time Covington is old enough to know what’s what. So even even my St. Louis Cardinals wife put them in the Acuna Jersey today and sent it out a little shout out. So that’s when you know it’s bad when players on other teams even American League players that have nothing to do with the Braves or Marlins were like Yeah that’s nonsense. So six

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:04:23] Yeah.

 

Will Shelton: [00:04:23] Games that there will be additional retribution

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:04:26] Yeah. Whoever that picture is he made a lot of Braves fans last night because he made me want to go watch baseball too. So

 

Will Shelton: [00:04:31] Yeah.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:04:32] I’m looking forward to that. Anyway we got several things to get to tonight. Tonight is actually when we’re recording it will probably go live in the morning. So just ignore all my references to time or pretend that you’re Desmond from Lost and figure it out. So other things we’ll be talking about potential trouble may be brewing with the receiving corps or maybe that’s something I just made up. What I’m gonna ask Will about early standouts in fall practice and which ones he’s looking most looking forward to seeing this fall. I’m also going to ask him about when and how much it might be OK to embrace expectations of a new staff as compared to the prior staff because some players made a couple of interesting comments after practice today. And then if we have time when is it okay to maybe start feeling okay about the cornerbacks. So that’s kind of what I want to get to tonight. First though a public service announcement. If we are still crossposting the podcast feed to Talkshoe and soundcloud but Talkshoe is going to go away. If you subscribe by iTunes everything is going to happen behind the scenes.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:05:49] You don’t have to worry but if for some reason you are very fond of Talkshoe and get the podcast through that eventually you’re going to be lonely. Because we will start stop posting over there. You’re gonna have to make the trek over to soundcloud unless you’re okay with iTunes. Really the best way is just subscribe to iTunes everything be ok google play we’ll be over there eventually too. And also while you’re at it do us a favor give us a rating give us a good one give us a review. Give us a good one. Say something nice about Will. You get extra bonus points if you say something nice about Brad Because I know that’s harder. Sorry Brad. I know he probably won’t be listening this until like tomorrow he’s not here to defend himself so yeah probably right now he’s dialing my number so I’m not going to ignore my phone tomorrow. But anyway so let’s let’s get started. Okay so the receiving corps right. Did you hear the podcast from last night?

 

Will Shelton: [00:06:52] I read the transcript which is how I got in the robo version of you talking about me selling shoes. But so yes I did not I didn’t have a chance to listen to. And I did. I did read the transcripts

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:07:02] Okay so that’s about 75 percent accurate.

 

Will Shelton: [00:07:05] Right.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:07:06] Yeah. Okay so the main thing is that Jauan has been having a little bit of trouble and we need to hire me hyperextended something. And he had some drops and practice and he started getting frustrated so we were talking about that. And then today apparently Marquez Callaway has been held out with some sort of minor injury. Now you expect those things in the fall right. But starting to get just a little bit concerned about the receiving corps especially since I’m hoping I have time to post this in the morning before I get to skedaddle. But the thing I did for the defense last week which was you know I looked at what I believed to be Pruitt’s ideal roster. The numbers that he wants at each position and what he wants those guys to look like in terms of height and weight and then I compared it to the current roster and seemed okay mostly on defense and I was a little bit surprised though when I’ve done the offensive one to find that we’re low on wide receivers of the right size. There are a couple of guys that are just a little bit smaller than what you would like but as far as the size and shape of the guys that Pruitt wants were a little bit low on numbers especially if you’re having problems with Jennings and Callaway. So, am I just being paranoid or do you think there might be a like a real concern there?

 

Will Shelton: [00:08:40] You know I don’t know if if the concern is is I have no idea how real it is. But if it is real it’s very concerning if that makes sense. It’s not just taking away two guys that you feel like are your most proven playmakers on offense. These guys Callaway’s best stuff came with Quinten Dormady last year and Jennings did not play with Guarantano at all. So whoever is the quarterback is trying to establish rhythm with at least Jennings if not Jennings and Callaway in a way that they have not before and I think there is statistically anyway there’s a sense that there’s a drop off there. Brandon Johnson is not a not a outside number one receiver kind of guy. He’s a good option in the slot at least he was last year a good safety valve but I don’t think he’s going to be someone that steps in and replaces there and the other thing is we’ve talked about this this offseason. Tennessee spent so much time under Butch Jones throwing to the running back that I think we all kind of get used to that not just in the years when they had Alvin Kamara but with Rajion Neal at the very beginning. Tennessee’s third option in the passing game almost the entire time that Butch Jones was at Tennessee was a running back and Tyson Helton at USC and at Western Kentucky doesn’t do that.

 

Will Shelton: [00:10:01] Not only did he have true number three wide receivers. He had true number four wide receivers which is a concept that we haven’t had at Tennessee in really a long time. So there are a lot of guys if you’re talking about even one of Jennings or Callaway being slowed or held out of action there’s there’s a lot there’s some bodies in there but like you say the size and shape may not be exactly what the new coaching staff wants and some of those other guys catch some balls even if you get Dominick Wood-Anderson in there even if they do develop Ty Chandler or somebody else as a running back in the passing game. If if Tyson Helton is calling the sort of game that he has been calling or involved with calling for his entire career they’re going through a lot of wide receivers. So you know you want those guys out there. I have no idea what the level of seriousness or how really those things are but yeah Tennessee needs those guys and needs them to beat a team like West Virginia or to beat a team like Florida.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:11:03] They absolutely need those guys especially in that first game yeah. So 24/7 sports. Did this piece here yesterday was 15 hours ago right now so it’s behind the paywall but basically it’s just a couple of it’s a list of guys that they think have stood out this fall. It includes most of the people you think. Alontae Taylor here is name a lot. They included included Daniel Bituli, there’s Dominick Wood-Anderson Trevon Flowers, Jordan Murphy, Cedric Tillman is another one. Then they also had Tim Jordan and Alexis Johnson on the list but one of those guys or maybe if there’s a different one. Who are you most looking forward to seeing. Sort of for the first time or for the first time in a long time this fall

 

Will Shelton: [00:12:02] I think the answer would be Alontae Taylor if we weren’t opening with West Virginia. But that’s still really enjoy seeing Alontae Taylor but I’m not sure about that. I may not enjoy seeing him at all and we may just have to chalk that up to competition. But. Someone made the point on Twitter today one of the Beat writers made the point that it’s significant that they’re letting Dominick Wood-Anderson talk to the media today which shows you that that’s not just a random off season pickup. It’s going to get Tennessee some depth now. You know they’ve had

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:12:36] Well.

 

Will Shelton: [00:12:36] Eli Wolf has been around the program a long time. But

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:12:40] Well they’ve also had Lovinggood talk to the media. So it’s not necessarily an indication of stardom or playing time. Maybe

 

Will Shelton: [00:12:47] Again it might be our best player though.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:12:49] It could be

 

Will Shelton: [00:12:50] It if you know all positions being equal. He could bring the most value to his position.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:12:56] Also. No offense to Lovinggood, I love that dude.

 

Will Shelton: [00:12:58] Right right. So that’s along the lines of what I would say they took Eli Wolf to media days right. So it’s not a it’s not a one and done situation there at tight end I think but I think that somebody again when you’re talking about looking for something different in the passing game we’ve been fooled into thinking Tennessee is going to throw to the tight end plenty of times before but I think that’s just it seems like we thought when he was signed and still things are in a camp that he gives you a dynamic that Tennessee’s other tight ends may not be able to do as well in the passing game. So I think he’s the one that could stand out soonest for a positive reason as opposed to Alontae Taylor who because of the opponent in a season opener may stand out for a negative reason.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:13:45] All right. So let me jump to the last question then which was going to be about the cornerbacks and whether it’s OK to start feeling OK about them you know all season long. Even going back to signing day when they sort of whiffed on a couple of high stakes blue chip recruits at the position cornerback has sort of been the doom and gloom story for the offseason. It’s like all that’s going to be our biggest weakness. We just don’t have what we need there. But then as we talked about I guess on our first 2018 podcast a week ago we started hearing good things about Alontae Taylor started hearing good things about Bryce Thompson and the thing is Pruitt assuming he is a good coach and can teach his teaches guys his expertise is at that position and he’s been spending most of his time there. One of the stories that I read the other day was that he he tried to spend some time with a different unit but sort of gravity pulled him back to the cornerbacks you know and you know maybe it’s because West Virginia’s coming out maybe it’s just because that’s where he thinks he can do the best maybe he gave that to himself because he hired other guys to do the other units or whatever. But you know it could be that they’re in good hands. And you know again like I said last week it takes a while to figure a team out. And so if West Virginia goes into this game knowing hey we’re a great passing team these guys are weak at the cornerback and in the secondary generally we’re just going to throw and then they find out that hey Alontae Taylor can get interceptions or Bryce Thompson is not shabby either. I don’t know. I started feeling a little bit better about the cornerbacks. My question to you is am I crazy.

 

Will Shelton: [00:15:50] I don’t think it’s crazy. I think crazy would be if we hadn’t heard Alontae Taylor’s name a lot. Because really at this point that’s all you have to go on right is is who what names my hearing most often from the guys that are there covering the team every day you don’t get to see very much of practice at all but who have sources and are talking to those folks. You just kind of especially now when they’re not even releasing scrimmage stats or whatever you just have to keep listening. What names my hearing most often. And Taylor has been I think probably other than Guarantano probably I’ve heard his name the most. Would you agree with that.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:16:29] I

 

Will Shelton: [00:16:30] That

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:16:30] Would.

 

Will Shelton: [00:16:30] Sound about right.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:16:31] I would although I’ll also say that a couple of years ago the name we were hearing the most was Kahlil McKenzie

 

Will Shelton: [00:16:38] That’s fair. But sometimes you get there. I mean Derek Barnett you

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:16:41] Yeah

 

Will Shelton: [00:16:41] Know was

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:16:41] Yeah.

 

Will Shelton: [00:16:41] Was unblockable and turned out that was true. So

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:16:46] Yeah

 

Will Shelton: [00:16:47] You see I guess you get a little bit of both but I’m wary. Like with some guys it’s the devil you know. Like when I hear Oh Kongbo is giving good quotes or whatever. I’ve believed that before and not seen it with him whereas with Taylor I haven’t seen him so why not just assume the best. So no I don’t think it’s crazy. And again I think there is a possibility here where you go back to that first game. Eric Berry’s year that first game against Cal in 2007 he got torched defensively in a game but in part they got towards because those guys are going against DeSean Jackson and a really good Cal offense. And then two weeks later they went against Tebow. So you know as it turned out that particular year freshman Eric veri was pretty great. And you know they had some other really young guys that were playing in that secondary and they were still good enough to win the SEC East. They just didn’t look like it when they were playing elite competition the first two weeks of the season they are playing DeSean Jackson and the Heisman Trophy winner. So I think it’s OK to be excited. And I think it’s OK if West Virginia comes out and does what some will predict him to do which is throw for a whole bunch of yards and score a whole bunch of points. I think it’s OK to say hey it’s all downhill from here. You know he’s not going to have to cover if he is in fact Tennessee’s number one corner.

 

Will Shelton: [00:18:15] If they want to play a lot of man to man and they put him on David Sills then hey it’s probably the best it’s going to be it. Definitely the best it’ll be all year or the hardest it will be all year when you talk about a quarterback wide receiver combination. So you know. Yeah I think it’s OK to get excited just with the caveat of crazy would be expecting him to shut down West Virginia. Expect him to make plays and not get totally embarrassed. Maybe we’ll see. But yeah I think it’s just based on the volume of times we’ve heard his name in particular and the fact that there are there’s Baylen Buchannan there Shawn Shamburger or there’s some other guys. I worry at this point about guys whose names I’m not hearing. Like Marquill Osborne is is one of those guys MaLeik Gray is one of those guys where based on recruiting rankings you’re hopeful OK maybe this new staff can can flip the switch on these guys but I’m not here about Marquill Osborne or MaLeik Gray. So you know maybe the recruiting evaluation was wrong or it’s hard to say maybe they’re getting beat out by better players and the better players or Freshmen. But you know. So. What names are you hearing does cut both ways. But No I do not think that’s crazy. As long as we’re not expecting. Tennessee to come out and shut down West Virginia’s passing game

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:19:39] Speaking of the coaching staff flipping the switch Kongbo talked to the media today and he like you like you said a minute ago he’s been known for saying stuff in the offseason and you love it because he’s like so confident you know. But it seems like after a couple of years he may have been humbled a little bit and that’s probably not a bad thing. But one of the things he said and I don’t have the exact quote right in front of me were I’ll put it in the roundup tomorrow. It was basically that it’s night and day here between this fall and last fall with the coaching staff. Everything’s different. It’s you know intimating that it’s that much better right. So you know we talked about this when we were naming the magazine what is it that we’re excited about with with the coaching staff and maybe for this fall. And we’re basically pinning our hopes on the fact that these guys this group of guys Pruitt at the top all the rest of the staff know how to teach football to the talented players that we already have. And we just didn’t have that before. And I’m really not that interested in and you know just here are the 15 worst things that Butch Jones ever did you know. You know I want to look forward right. But part of part of the hope for this season is that these guys are going to fix something that just couldn’t get fixed last year. And so how much do you think we can really expect or should expect the new group of guys to flip that switch. Like you mentioned and take some of our unrealized potential and actually turn it into something that we’ve been hoping to see for years now.

 

Will Shelton: [00:21:43] I think on some level you have to do with a case by case basis. Right. I mean that whole group of guys that Butch Jones recruited that were highly sought after but have not it has not manifested itself the way we thought it would just yet. Drew Richmond, Kongbo. Kyle Phillips I feel like

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:22:02] Yep

 

Will Shelton: [00:22:02] It’s already you know that guy was great in the spring I feel like we’re already assuming he’s going to get there. But Kyle Phillips is certainly one of those guys and there are others like him and Marquill Osborne is a big. MaLeik Grey is still young enough that you know there may be something there. And Guarantano certainly. So there’s all those guys some of those guys will be better with this coaching staff were this position coach like Guarantno. I mean it’s hard to imagine him not being better with an actual quarterback coach and offensive line that doesn’t have converted tight ends on it. But You know I think at some point I think it’s comforting to hear it was comforting to me here. Even I said that earlier about not having bought into Kongbo before when we as fans think a certain thing and then you hear the players. Say a version of that thing. Which is Quote unquote these are actual football players not quote unquote that Kongbo said that but in general these are actual football coaches as opposed to good recruiters and cliche men and whatever that is. Yeah it helps out the idea that OK yeah we this is the right line of thinking about Pruitt and these guys. And yeah Tennessee can be better.

 

Will Shelton: [00:23:22] Tennessee can be more. The flipside of that coin is for all Butch Jones faults, he had coached a football team for six years before he came here. And Jeremy Pruitt has not done that at all as the head coach. So there’s a whole slew of things that Butch Jones just inherently knew how to do when he came here because he’d been a head coach for six years. That Pruit will be will be learning on the fly. So I don’t know that those things I don’t know that those things are going to be the difference between a win and a loss early in the year. But you know I think it’s that’s the that’s the narrative that we want to believe in and there’s enough both coaches did enough good Butch in recruiting and Pruitt with his background that you know it’s there is a path for this team to win seven games or so I think that’s not out of the question. If you do have that switch flipped and if Tennessee stays healthy and the talent that Butch brought in here now can kind of manifest and grow up. But I also think I keep going back to Kiffin where when I hear people making the comparison with Pruitt and these guys to Kiffin and those guys oh you know these are actual football coaches and whatever Kiffin was horrible in the UCLA game.

 

Will Shelton: [00:24:43] Second time out I mean and he was the head coach of the NFL and that was a horrendously coached and called game that Tennessee Lost to a really bad UCLA team at home. So you know they got it figured out eventually that year but they had some really early bumps in the road. So I don’t know. I’m curious to see but I think it’s I think it’s good to see the narrative that we have kind of bought into as fans to hear that repeated back to us by players. That’s great. We’ll you know we’ll need to see and we’ll need to see not West Virginia but we need to see Florida. We need to see South Carolina Missouri we need to see games that Tennessee has a legitimate chance to win and see how Tennessee performs in those kinds of games. I think to see where we’re at but as I’ve written too and said all summer like Butch Jones taught me that like every play matters evaluate every play. Think about how is this team learning and growing on every play. And that somewhere I think you can you can begin to see it even in the West Virginia game I guess.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:25:50] That’s a really interesting comparison between if you going to put two things on a scale you put six years of head coaching experience at Cincinnati against two years as defensive coordinator under Nick Saban at Alabama which is which is better preparation for a head coaching job at Tennessee because I think there’s an argument to be made for either one of those especially when you consider that you know it’s not just two years under Nick Saban in Alabama but also his time at Georgia. His time at Florida State. Just knowing a system because it seemed like maybe the Butch Jones knew how sort of you know to meet with the media and to talk to the media and stuff but maybe he’d never been exposed to the practice slash program blueprint that is fully operational in Tuscaloosa you know. So I don’t I think he he might be just as prepared as Butch Jones was to be a head coach at Tennessee although the thing that really scares me is that everybody on the staff has moved up one level from where they were.

 

Will Shelton: [00:27:08] Right. Right.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:27:09] And if you’re talking Peter Principle you know how many of those guys are not going to be able to survive that extra level. I don’t know. That’s that’s kind of frightening. I hope it doesn’t ever end up there. But if things start falling apart it’s the first place I’m going to start looking and that’s probably the first thing you’re going to hear me saying. But I hope I don’t ever want to say it.

 

Will Shelton: [00:27:36] Yeah. I have a couple concerns there. One my concern for that really isn’t even this year because I think regardless of the truth of that statement that you know it’s Pruitt got the big job and so he went out and gave a lot of other guys the next job up the ladder. I don’t worry about that showing up this year. I worry about next year and the year after that if we need better coaches than a bunch of guys that he knew. And it’s not the same as Butch we got a whole staff over from Cincinnati. But you know he hired guys that he knew it’s generally. That’s what I would do too. You know as you hire guys that you know and guys you think you’re going to do a good job and help you win. But if it turns out I’m just throwing this name out there I have no reason to think you want there great job but like if two years from now it turns out that will friend is not the answer it is the offensive line coach is like how fast will Pruitt see that. I don’t think that’s going to show up this year. I worry about these guys all of them collectively are they good enough recruiters and coaches to get us to 10 wins. And that is not going to show itself this year. I think the other thing to in terms of you know what’s the better preparation for the Tennessee job is it three years at Central Michigan and three years Cincinnati or working as a defensive coordinator at Alabama and Georgia and Florida State.

 

Will Shelton: [00:29:05] My concern is someone made this comment on the 10 questions for 2010. 2018 the last post that I wrote About that we will learn most about Prewett this year is how he handles adversity and there’s some probably some real truth in that Tennesse almost certainly who’s going to lose more games this year than he has lost. You know since he was a player at Alabama. I don’t know. We’re going back aways there. And even then I mean he played on a played on mid 90s Alabama teams which were on the decline but not all the way. Because I don’t think he was on like that ninety seven 98 Alabama teams. That’s it. But anyway I know he’s going to lose more than he’s lost in a while. How does he handle that. Here again Derek Dooley Saban assistant not not a coordinator. It’s interesting I read Bill Connelley’s Missouri preview and he points out that there Dooley has had all of these jobs but he’s never been a coordinator like he’s been the head coach. He’s been the head coach at an SEC program. He’s been a position coach in the NFL but he’s never been a coordinator. It’s a weird sort of thing.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:30:18] That is

 

Will Shelton: [00:30:19] But Dooley when he came here position coach on Saban’s staff head coach experience at a smaller school. But that guy from the first the first time adversity struck against Oregon in the second game. He didn’t handle it well. He correctly pointed out that his team folded when things got hard. But then like he never helped them unfold themselves. You know like he he was perfect at identifying the problem but totally unhelpful at at providing a solution. So. When we struggle this year Or when we get blown out or something like that how is how is Pruitt going to handle that. You know Butch had some experience getting blown out when you coached in central Michigan you get blown out when you play Michigan State and those teams I know he beat one of them once. But I think he had experience with that. It’s just it cost him not having the cultural experience Of a power 5 program and we got fooled everybody everybody’s question when Butch was hired was can he recruit to Tennessee and turned to the level we need to win. And turns out the answer was yes. And then we just assumed that also meant he could develop that same talent and that answer was No. But you know. Pruitt won’t have the problem of. Not understanding the expectations or or not understanding not thinking that in the nine and 4 champions of life it was a good year with a team that had a chance to be so much more than that.

 

Will Shelton: [00:31:54] So I don’t know. It’ll be interesting to see you know Pruitt like anybody else who’s going to do some things well he’s going to do some things not so well. And as we have said about many a coach especially the ones that have not worked out at Tennessee which has been all of them the last 10 years. It’s not even your mistakes. It’s do you have the ability to evolve. Can you grow can you identify flaws in the system and then seek to correct them. Can you identify those flaws when those flaws are you the assistant coaches that you brought here in the first place and maybe you need to go in a different direction. And and you know Butch Jones did that when he brought in Shoop but then can you also understand that when you go in a different direction it needs to be a good fit. Just a lot of a lot of learning on the fly and that that’ll be true for Pruitt just as much as it was for Butch Jones I just think it will be in very different ways. But hey you know you look at it would do us some good probably to pull the quotes from Kirby Smart’s first year and to see you know the rumblings of this guy’s not happy and is he a good fit here and he’s so different than Richt.

 

Will Shelton: [00:33:05] And you know we gave away a coach that won all these games and turns out Kirby Smart was just fine. And and you know knows exactly what he’s doing. But that first year and his first time being a head coach I don’t know how often it felt that way for those guys in the middle of what I think was a seven and five season. But other thing too I know we’re jumping all over the place here. Big things for Kirby Smart. He won that first game. You know a beat North Carolina in that opener in I guess the Georgia Dome in its final season. And that was big that was big for Georgia fans looking. To. Believe when you beat North Carolina in the opener. It helps you deal with losing to Vanderbilt later in the year. So. You know you got to you’ve got to You’ve got to win some of those those North Carolina type of games that the Games Kiffin won against Georgia and South Carolina. You know Pruitt needs to get one of those in there that. Will help. Certainly will help him Tennessee. Lose somewhere along the way to

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:34:00] Well we’re out of time but quickly. Are you working on something for the morning.

 

Will Shelton: [00:34:06] Yeah I went back and polled. Thanks again to the folks that do Tennessee’s media guy they do a great job every year this game against West Virginia who is ranked 20th in the coaches poll is the 13th time that Tennessee is playing a ranked nonconference foe in the season opener. But more than just looking for the ranked nonconference I was just trying to get a sense of where we rate this opener kind of as a tone setter. You know it doesn’t have the 10 out of 10. We’ve seen some of those games where like NC State a couple of years ago it was like if Dooley can’t win this game. You know he’s never going to win here or the Cal game and 2006 where it felt like we didn’t know how the program was going to go. So it’s not that I don’t think it’s it’s like last year’s Georgia Tech game where there’s some preexisting anxiety that that will instantly come into play the first time something goes wrong. But it’s also you know it’s it’s your first impression for a new coach. So just kind of historically going back over the last couple decades and saying when Tennessee has played these these kinds of season openers even a Utah state I think that’s an underrated Butch Jones game that season opener the second year when they still went with Justin Worley. It was a Sunday night game and Chuckie Keaton and all that stuff. Tennessee played really well in that game you know and that that was a big kind of tone setter at the time I think to. To feel like OK this you know things are things are going to go all right here. But we. I didn’t feel that way before kickoff. You know I was not expecting Tennessee to win by 31 or whatever they won by I thought that was going to be a real close game. So. Just just trying to. Where do we rank this West Virginia game in the context of all those. Is. something I’m working on for tomorrow.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:35:58] All right. Look for that in the morning. Also look for Will on sports 180 with Josh Ward and Will West tomorrow at one thirty. I think it usually is right

 

Will Shelton: [00:36:11] Yup yup

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:36:12] One thirty. He’s on there every week with them. Always good stuff and do us a favor and subscribe to the show via iTunes or soundcloud. Just go to iTunes and search for the Gameday on Rocky Top Podcast. If you’re feeling particularly charitable you can leave a rating or a review. We will greatly appreciate it. And that’ll do it for tonight’s show for Will Shelton. I’m Joel Hollingsworth and this has been the Gameday on Rocky Top podcast.

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:36:47] podcast last night that Sean Ellis the John Ward

 

Will Shelton: [00:36:51] He

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:36:51] Call

 

Will Shelton: [00:36:51] Made

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:36:51] For

 

Will Shelton: [00:36:51] It

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:36:51] That that is the best call. I love that he made it.

 

Will Shelton: [00:36:57] In that same game when they stopped when we stopped a on 4th and goal the one and he just goes. No no no no no no no

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:37:09] Well do you have anything you want to sing before I stop recording.

 

Will Shelton: [00:37:13] No. I do not. I’m not sure my wife is still awake or not. Maybe maybe some other time we can get Alex to do it non bread interview. SIR

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:37:22] Well that wouldn’t be funny though that would just be good. But I guess we

 

Will Shelton: [00:37:25] It

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:37:25] Can

 

Will Shelton: [00:37:25] Wasn’t

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:37:25] Do

 

Will Shelton: [00:37:25] Bad

 

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:37:25] Good.

 

Will Shelton: [00:37:25] Brad’s was better than I thought it was. He’s done some karaoke in his life. I guarantee you.

 

[00:01:18] What’s up with Jauan Jennings? Are we worried about his injury or his reported frustration with it?
[00:07:45] What do we think about Greg Emerson’s prospects for playing time this fall?
[00:13:50] What do we make of the fact that local media seems to think Jarrett Guarantano leads the QB race but Keller Chryst is getting national attention?
[00:23:10] Our favorite moments of the 1998 national championship season.

TRANSCRIPT

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:00:13] Welcome to the Gameday on Rocky Top Podcast. I’m Joel Hollingsworth, and I’m with Brad Shepherd. How are you doing Brad?

Brad Shepard: [00:00:20] Doing well man. How are you?

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:00:21] I’m doing great. Will Shelton is, well, I’m just going to say it. He’s been he’s been suspended for two games for selling shoes that we gave him, two podcasts. So he’s he’s gone. Actually he’s off doing like adult things he’s got like real responsibilities while Brad and I sit here and talk football. So at least that’s what I’m assuming he’s doing he’s probably just like watching the watch in the Braves game.

Brad Shepard: [00:00:48] We self-reported that violation though so we’re OK.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:00:52] Yeah there’s you know but you still got to sit him for a little bit.

Brad Shepard: [00:00:56] You do. You just have to show the NCAA that you know at least pretend to care.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:01:01] That’s right. It’s it’s it’s definitely it’s buried somewhere in the bylaws that you cannot sell your own possessions. So they’re not really your possessions at that point I guess right.

Brad Shepard: [00:01:14] Well get him back by the Florida game, I mean that’s all that matters.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:01:18] All right. OK so what’s going on today. Let’s see the. I want to talk about this first because you know one of the big stories is Jauan Jennings coming back. We need that dude. He’s a monster. But we had word a couple of days ago that he had hyperextended something somewhere according to Pruitt. So you know let’s let’s be honest everything is pretty hyper about Juan. But he you know he sort of hyperextended it and then some of the some of the practice reports are saying that he’s dropping balls and stuff and getting frustrated. So how much of a concern is that to you, Brad? You know I’m thinking it’s kind of a storm brewing because that dude’s volatile. He gets frustrated. You know that’s when his first test comes is when he hits some adversity. So how worried are you about Jauan at this point?

Brad Shepard: [00:02:17] I think it’s definitely a concern. I mean especially considering you know what we’ve been heard all the offseason is that you know he’s doing the right things from a leadership standpoint and he’s you know responding the way you would like to for him to respond. And of course we you know we have these thoughts in our head dating back to you know the Da’rick Rogers and Janzen Jackson era of players getting second chances and the reports being good and then all of a sudden there they do something stupid and they’re kicked up the team. I’m not sure that’s what this is. Right, Coker. And and just to be fair to Jauan I mean we’re not we’re not jumping from point A to Point B right now. I mean obviously we’re you know we’re just speculating. But from what it sounds and the way the reports sound to me is that he’s frustrated with himself you know that maybe maybe things are not you know coming together as quickly as he would like them to. Obviously you know he he’s got to shake off a lot of rust considering he hasn’t played since Georgia Tech last year. You would you would expect that to be the case anyway especially considering he didn’t go through the spring but I think probably in his mind being the kind of player and the kind of competitor that he is wants to come in and prove that not only am I a guy who’s bought in but I’m a guy who is going to be one of the best players in this league. Because pretty much every report that has been has been written about Jauan after he’s kind of gotten back in good graces is that you know he’s not a school first guy and he wants this year to be his last year. So in order to get to that next step you have to take the first step, and that’s something that he’s probably struggling with right now. And you know the little nicks that you get in fall camp. None of that stuff helps. So do I think he’s going to be 100 percent or even ready to be a difference maker by the West Virginia game? I don’t, I don’t think Tennessee really needs to rely on that right now and which is a bummer because Tennessee is going to so that’s going to be an all hands on deck kind of game. But you know he’s kind of as we’ve talked about the bell cow that was receiving corps that we had anticipated and hoped would be kind of a team strength. And so far in camp we’ve heard a lot a lot about drop’s and inconsistency in the same kinds of things that we’ve heard for the past couple seasons. Sohopefully he’ll get back and that receiving corps got taken their lumps early on they’ll get those out of the way, and guys like Jordan Murphy who’s had a great camp and Marquez Callaway. Those guys can really step forward and you know kind of do some of the heavy lifting until Jauan comes back and is completely healthy.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:05:23] Yeah and I want to clarify to. I didn’t mean to suggest that there was any news out there that he was doing anything other than the right thing, just that he was injured and having a little problem with the drops. But this whole trying to decipher Pruitts comments which you know always is hazardous because he doesn’t say much. Hyperextended,that has to be like. I mean that can’t be a re-injury of the wrist. You don’t hyperextended a wrist or do you? I don’t know. Any idea?

Brad Shepard: [00:05:58] No. I mean I don’t know. I guess I wouldn’t think. I mean I guess maybe you could. I wouldn’t think that that would be a I don’t think.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:06:07] It sounds like a knee, right?

Brad Shepard: [00:06:09] Yeah it does. It sounds like there’s something that he tweaked in practice that you know maybe maybe not fully healed. I mean he’s not he’s not been 100 percent. They’ve kind of work him out lightly on the side. You know in all fairness to Pruitt and those guys I mean this is, this is step one. I mean they haven’t seen Jauan. I think that they know what to expect from Jauan of two years ago, but nobody really knows what to expect from Jauan right now. It’s been a year since he’s played. So you know they’re doing exactly what they should do which is you know want to see him take some live bullets. And right now he’s not healthy enough to really do that. And I’m sure that’s that’s frustrating for the kid. And you know knowing a little bit. I mean I don’t I’m not saying that we’re close family friends or anything, but knowing the Jennings family and knowing how competitive he is and you know how competitive Benny was, his dad, who played at Lincoln County High School — yes I’m going to get a plug in there. I mean you know that’s those guys. I mean they’re alphas. And when Jennings is not playing at 100 percent that chip on his shoulder gets big and everybody knows it. So you know I think it’s probably just a matter of wanting to be good enough to you know take it to the next level this year and then ultimately to the next level next year in the NFL. And right now, his body’s probably not do him what he thinks it should be.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:07:45] So speaking of guys that we know and have been following since high school, somebody asked you on Twitter about Greg Emerson. You got an opinion on what’s going on with him?

Brad Shepard: [00:07:58] Yeah you know I mean it’s one of those things where you know it’s hard to really kind of sort out what Pruitt wants versus what Tennessee has right now. And I think that that’s what we’re seeing all over the defense because Pruitt has this preconceived notion of what a big successful defense looks like. And he’s got his players that he wants to fit in those roles. So you look at a guy like MaLeik Gray who was a four star kid who everybody in the country basically wanted. But Pruitt didn’t really recruit him when he was at Alabama.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:08:38] Wrong size?

[00:08:39] Right. You see a guy is kind of you know he’s played safety, he’s played corner now, he’s moved over and playing receiver and it’s like they’re trying to find a place for him. I’m not suggesting that Greg Emerson is that kind of player, but he had a really bad spring and by bad I mean a really rusty spring. The kid was you know at that point ten months removed from the gruesome leg injury suffered at the Opening camp which I think I said on Twitter was a knee, but it wasn’t you know it was a broken, a lower leg break. And you know that’s that kind of injury is going to take a while to get over. And Greg right now you know he’s played some on the strong side now as everybody knows Tennessee is trying to shift to a 3 4. So he seemed to be like an ideal candidate to play on the interior in a 4-3. Now he’s a little bit you know he’s he’s not quite quick enough to play on the edge. Tennessee’s worked him some at the nose this week. He’s maybe not heavy enough to play at the nose right now I want to say he’s maybe around 300 pounds which is not is not a lightweight by any chance. But I don’t really think that his body is where it needs to be yet. And I think that we should all give him the benefit of the doubt that you know at this point he’s 14 months removed from that. He’s not really worked out the he’s needed to. And so Pruitt you’ve heard more about guys that Pruitt recruited like John Mincey and Kurott Garland and even even Kingston Harris, who I don’t want to say all three of those guys are a little higher on the pecking order than Emerson right now, but Emerson was one of the three or four highest rated recruits in Tennessee’s class. And he’s not playing at that level right now. That doesn’t mean that he won’t. That doesn’t mean that he’s not going to live up to his rating but you know I think that that the natural progression of things is ideally you don’t want a defensive tackle playing as a true freshman. And Tennessee’s not been in a position for the past decade where they’ve had that luxury. And now I think that you know Tennessee would like to redshirt Emerson if they could. And that we can start talking about him next year. But I would be stunned if he unless the light comes on for him and he does some things that he reportedly hasn’t done a lot of in camp so far. If if I’d be surprised if we’re talking about him a lot this year.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:11:11] Well there’s some good competition there too. I mean you know Shy Tuttle’s got the nose locked down probably. Gooden, tou know, he’s probably at one of the ends right?

Brad Shepard: [00:11:22] He is, and he can play inside. And Alexis Johnson’s having a really good camp and he’s a senior as well. So you’ve got some players there Kyle Phillips is a guy who this coaching staff really likes who’s kind of getting a second lease on life like a lot of these guys. And you know there there are some players there. There’s not the depth obviously that Tennessee would like. And that’s why you’re going to see players like perhaps John Mincey and Kurott Garland get in that rotation. But you know I’m not sure that Emerson is going to be in that rotation this year. I mean they moved to this is a guy that they moved. It was one of the players that they moved for a week and a half to the offensive line back in the spring. And you know I mean I’m not knocking in any of those kids that they did that to you because obviously they moved Alontae over to a corner, and he’s probably been the most buzzed about player so far this camp. But a lot of those guys were not most of those guys were not guys where you’re like OK. You know Eric Crosby is going to be in the rotation or you know Princeton Fant is going to be a guy that we’re going to play at tight end a lot next year. A lot of those guys were. Well we know Fant’s down the depth chart let’s play him running back. We know Crosby is really not quick enough to play on the defensive line let’s move him over to offensive guard. Emerson, I think that they’re trying to find the place that he best bits and we’re still seeing that by them shifting him around on the defensive line. That’s not to say that he’s a tweener that’s not to say that he hasn’t but that he’s not going to find a home. I just think that this coaching staff wants to kind of exhaust all avenues and no one to say this guy’s definitely an end, this guy is definitely a tackle. And them maybe miss an opportunity where he’s going to play his best and get him on the field the quickest. Because he is one of those players that you look at he looks the part. He obviously did some things in high school that made a lot of the analysts like him and rate him high. It’s just a matter of you know is he 100 percent. Where’s he going to play. And you know when he does get healthy how quickly he’s going to step on the field.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:13:27] And as far as being moved over the offensive line during the spring, there were a lot more questions on the offensive line in the spring than there are now, too.

Brad Shepard: [00:13:34] Absolutely.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:13:35] We did not know about Trey, Chance Hall look like he was. You know we didn’t know whether or not he was going to be back, and we still don’t know. But look you know the forecast is bright you know.

Brad Shepard: [00:13:47] Kennedy was not on the team, lots of things.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:13:50] All right let’s talk about the quarterbacks because you know it seemed from most reports that Guarantano had the inside track that he was winning the battle. Even though he hadn’t seized it, that even though Pruitt hadn’t said that one guy’s running away with it so we’re going to name him the starter. Most of the reports were that Guarantano basically was doing better than Chryst and then all of a sudden today Chryst is named to the Johnny Unitas Golden Arm watch list and David Shaw his former coach at Stanford says he’s an NFL draft pick and he was just too talented to be a backup on our team, which that’s like a slight to Tennessee. Yeah he’s he’s not good enough to play for us, but he can go start for Tennessee right. So anyway what do you make of this?

Brad Shepard: [00:14:45] Well I mean you know I don’t want don’t ever want to you know feign firsthand knowledge of these things because I’m not out there going to practice every day. But I’ve spoken to a lot of people who’ve seen snippets of practice and then a couple of guys who’ve seen a lot more practice than maybe they should be talking to me about it. You know he’s he’s you know I would be first of all I want to say that a preface that that you know all of this Guarantano’s definitely the guy with you know all the reporters saying that, hasn’t seen a whole lot of practice. They’ve not seen a lot of all of the reps. I mean sometimes as as we’ve seen the last few days they’ve some people have seen the reporters have seemed like seven to 12 minutes of practice. I mean they’re out there not out there practicing for 15 minutes. You know they’re obviously seeing just you know a tenth of practice if that. I mean so I’m not sure they know. Obviously those guys have sources and they’re hearing that Guarantano’s looking better. I think Guarantano is definitely the most the more talented of the two. But based off everything I’ve heard, Chryst is is not is not the kind of guy that’s going to be not the kind of strong arm quarterback who’s going to advance the ball downfield with any sort of regularity. Now that doesn’t mean that he’s not the quarterback. That doesn’t mean that he can’t move the offense. But you know that the things that that kind of concern me and looking at a Chryst led offense is in the past we’ve not really seen him throw the ball vertically a lot when he was at Stanford because he wasn’t asked to within the framework of that offense. We had heard that he had a strong arm but then most of the most of the report so far is that you know Shrout and Guarantano both have stronger arms. And then the thing that to me is not a very good not a very good thing to factor into that. The factor into that equation as well is that he’s only a career 15 he’s only completed 59 percent of his career passes, so he’s obviously not very accurate, too. Now, that sounds like I’m sitting here you know punching the kid in the face repeatedly. I’m not doing that. I don’t know. You know what kind of player he is. I think that Tennessee would be a better football team if Guarantano would realize his massive potential and play up to his capabilities. I think the issue with Guarantano, and Pruitt’s alluded to it in the last couple of times that he’s spoken about the quarterbacks, is Gaurantano’s internal clock is not where it needs to be yet. He takes way too many hits. He lets the pocket collapse on him way too quickly and he doesn’t throw guys open the way he should do in the way his arm is capable of. So until he gets that innate ability to do those things and to realize when he’s got to get rid of the ball, I think he’s going to struggle because he’s not the running threat that Dobbs was. He could run a little but he’s not a running quarterback and is as far as Chryst goes maybe Chryst does those things a little bit better, which then it’s kind of a pick your poison when you go with the less talented quarterback who doesn’t have a strong enough arm to throw the ball 25 yards downfield. I’m not suggesting that’s Chryst because I have not seen him throw for Tennessee, or do you not go or do you go with a guy who you know maybe takes a little more sacks but can make a play on a deep ball. I don’t know and I think that Tennessee’s got that decision to make between those guys. I think it’s an imperfect situation. Neither of those guys are guys that we can be really excited about right now. But I also think it would be I would be stunned if at some point throughout the season that I’d be stunned if both of them didn’t start at least one game at some point this year because I think both of them are going to have some opportunities. Even though I think Gueron Tonneau probably start the season as the starter.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:18:49] You know while you’re talking I was thinking about this too. You’re more of a national guy so you’ll you’ll know this. But you know he played for Stanford in the big in the Pac 12. So now he’s going to be playing in the SEC. You know I mean the Pac 12 is not the Big 12. It’s not like there’s no defense. Right. But it’s not SEC defense right. How much of a difference you think the defenses are in the Pac 12 that he put his numbers up against as to what he’s going to see this fall?

Brad Shepard: [00:19:24] You know they’re not consistently great defensive teams in the Pac 12 mean obviously USC and especially Washington have put up some really good numbers and produced some some quality NFL players. I think that UCLA had a good defense when Moore was there as a general rule. But you know he didn’t he didn’t face a lot of great defenses the thing that was the thing that was really kind of encouraging to me is you look at some of Chryst’s best games that came against some of the better competition that he played. And he had a really good game against USC a couple of years ago. But on the flip side of that he had some really poor games against some really bad teams. I mean I’m not so I’m not suggesting that San Diego State is a bad team. They’ve been a really really good team for the last couple of years on their level.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:20:08] They got that running back, too, what’s that dude’s name?

Brad Shepard: [00:20:12] Yeah, Rashaad Penny and then they had Donnell Pumphrey two years ago. So they’ve had some really stud running backs but you know you expect you expect Stanford to just annihilate teams like that and they actually lost to that team a couple of years ago in Pumphrey’s last year so or maybe it was last year whenever they lost they lost a San Diego State. And one of the last couple of years and that’s been that game’s been really close both times. So you know I don’t know. I think obviously the defenses are going to be faster in the SEC the defenses are going to be deeper and they’re better but it’s not like he’s just played you know Big 12 defenses. I mean the Pac 12 actually plays some quality football. It’s just a different brand of football. And Stanford plays a lot like we you know remember Tennessee playing. Other than you know maybe I mean they play a lot more pro style smash mouth football on offense as we know. And but you know the big the Pac 12 just has different offensive sets, different schematics, I mean there’s not there’s a lot of West Coast elements. There there’s some pro style elements. I mean you know a play under center a lot which I think Tennessee will run from under center a lot this year too. But it’s just it’s just a different animal. So you know I think that that that we’re maybe seeing Chryst kind of you know if the reports are accurate and he’s not looked great in kind of this the scrimmage settings or the live action practice that the media has seen it’s probably because there’s a little bit of a spade adjustment. Maybe he can adapt to that. But you know it’s very difficult to judge based on the first two weeks of practice. Obviously we’ve only got two weeks to go till the ballgames start but I’m not ready to rule Chryst out of the competition. But I do think that he’s the less talented of the two.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:22:10] Just quickly is it fair to say that his offensive line at Stanford is better than what he is now in Tennessee?

Brad Shepard: [00:22:17] Absolutely, yeah. Yeah, the offensive line at Stanford the last couple of years has been pretty good. I don’t have I don’t have the numbers or the stats in front of me obviously. Shaw does a really good job recruiting and they I want to say two years ago they were much better than what they were last year which might be a reason why Costello, who’s a little bit more of a of a pocket role and a better athlete, you know kind of won that job. And they had Stanford had had a couple of high four star or five star offensive one recruits that came in in this class that’s going to be able to step right in that they need to step right and play so they had some losses all that offensive line. But I want to say the last couple of years they’ve been they’ve been pretty pretty good up front.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:23:10] All right. Last thing before we go let Will out of the subcellar. Starting to ramp up talk about what happened 20 years ago. Chris Low wrote a piece on the official Tennessee site about the 1998 championship team. And there’s some other stories that are starting to come out. I think Fulmer did a video interview with somebody about it and so that got me thinking there were so many great moments during that season. We really need to have one of our old school sort of bracket deals. maybe the week of the Florida game maybe we should do that just you know the the best moments of the season. So just off the top of your head. What do you think are the top four or five just what comes to your mind first. You know you can you can breeze through the ones that we all know that we all know and probably come come to our minds first. But I mean here are your top four or five.

Brad Shepard: [00:24:20] Oh man. I mean I romanticize that season so much and it was you know it’s because it’s the first time I was ever really away from home. I was a freshman at UT and you know we we camped out to get Florida tickets. And you know I actually pulled pulled seats in D and so I was sitting like 40 rows up on the 50 yard line for that unbelievable game. There will never be there’ll never be another moment another sports moment in my life that meant more than than that moment. I would. I mean that’s going to be number one for me just because you know there was that there was that split second of silence and then just the stampede of people down the bleachers and all celebrating on the field and it was just it was just you know you just can’t put it into words. If you weren’t if you weren’t a part of it it was just one of those things that it feels like we’ll never have again. Plus it was just you know you’re 18 years old so you’re looking at everything through through these lenses. You know I’m on top of the world. I’ve got the rest of my life in front of me. Everything is immense and this is the most immense thing in this whole immense world right now and it was just I mean it really now romanticized over the years but it was just really surreal. And looking back on it it’s even gotten more surreal as the years have gone on. So that’s one. To me. I mean number two one of the one of the few games toward the end of the season started covering a little bit of football but I didn’t cover the Arkansas Game and I was sitting in the stands with my dad and a couple of our friends here who are big Arkansas Razorback fans. And you know that game. It was just it was miserable. I mean the weather was just awful. You know and Tennessee was just getting obliterated the whole game. It was just it was such a hangover game that you just you know you had no you just had no sense in that game that that it was going to get that it was that Tennessee could win that game you know. And then and then the obviously the the Billy Ratliffe play which I will I will forever say it was the Ratliffe play more than it was the Stoerner play because he created that and it was and you know it’s just a great play against people just you know people want to want to talk about Stoerner making the blunder, but man I mean that was that was I mean he beat Brandon Burlsworth. The late great Brandon Burlsworth on that play, who was one of the best offensive linemen in the SEC that was just I mean that was a great player making a great play against a great player and winning a football game. And then the ensuing Henry runs afterward were amazing. I mean it was just that was that was great to me. And then the other two that maybe you know that maybe you’re a little bit. Everybody wants to say the you know the national championship game obviously that was a everything. I mean all the moments the Goodrich pick the the the Peerless catch. I mean all those things were were great in that game. But you know the things that stand out to me is that you know Tennessee was playing against a pretty mediocre Bama team and and the Peerless kick return that that really kind of turned things and that game was really was really an important moment you know kind of kind of to just kind of reassert that Tennessee, reassert what Tennessee was that year in that game because everybody knows especially back then the Tennessee Bama game could go either way. So I would put that up there. And then really just kind of the way everything came together in the season opener because against Syracuse because that was a sneaky good Syracuse team and they had a lot of great NFL players like McNabb and Conrad and I mean just all those guys that for that team and you know Tennessee was coming off, you know Peyton leaving and they were highly ranked. Will’s the historian so he knows what they were ranked at the start of the season everything. But you know there was not really a lot of talk about him and then they kind of just you know went up to the Carrier Dome which is a really tough place to play and pulled off that win and maybe they shouldn’t have. I mean that was a great game. I know you said four but the other one you know I was down at Auburn when Jamal got hurt. And at that point you know everything. You know you’re kind of thinking there’s nothing there is nothing right now that can stop Tennessee because nobody can stop Jamal Lewis. And then Jamal gets hurt. And I was sitting on the goal line at the Auburn game and I saw him get hurt and I almost think you know he really did trotted off the field he’s OK fine and my dad’s like I don’t know you can trot off the field still have a torn ACL or you know MCL or whatever it was. And I was like No no he’s fine and then he wasn’t fine and you’re thinking well that’s it. There’s the chances then you know that more of that moment just Henry coming in and being what Henry was. I mean there’s just so many great moments so many great heroes that year. That just makes you really appreciate what that team was because it was really the true definition of a team. People forget that Al Wilson didn’t play a couple of games that year because he was hurt and even when he didn’t you know he’s the emotional leader over there. You know swirlin the towel on the sidelines.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:29:40] He was out for Auburn, too, wasn’t he?

Brad Shepard: [00:29:42] Yeah, I think he was yeah. And so I mean you know it’s just one of those things where in Tennessee, man they recruited so well back then and a lot of those Garner players that you know I mean Dwayne Good . . . not Dwayne Goodrich, but Deon Grant and you know Fred White and those guys that were just flippin studs I mean you know they were just deep and good. And when one guy went down the next guy came in and they just won football games. It wasn’t always pretty but they imposed their will and won games and it’s just you know that’s not even mentioned in Tee completing 21 straight passes against South Carolina. I mean there’s so many moments just a lot of a lot of great memories.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:30:24] We definitely need to do a bracket.

Brad Shepard: [00:30:26] Yeah yeah. Absolutely.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:30:28] We’ll have to do that. So I’ve I’ve written this at at the old site. I’ve never said it on the podcast so my my story about the moment in the Arkansas game is we were living in I was in law school at UT. We were living in a town home. And so you know the walls are thin and you can you can hear everybody and you know everybody’s watching the game because you know when something good happens the whole neighborhood erupts and when something bad happens the whole neighborhood erupts. So I’m in the midst of all of this. Like you said it was terrible weather in the midst of all this. There’s a traveling magazine salesmen going and knocking on every door in our community. Right. And so this dude. He comes to my door. I want to say just seconds after Stoerner fell and fumbled. And this guy knocks on the door he knows that he has to establish rapport. That’s what you gotta do before you can sell somebody. So he’s like, “Who’s winning?” And you know I was not going to explain the entire game in this moment to this stranger. My door wanting my money right. And so I just said Arkansas you know because they were still winning at that time right. And he goes, “Yes!”

Brad Shepard: [00:32:07] Oh my gosh.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:32:07] The dude didn’t know what state he was in.

Brad Shepard: [00:32:10] He had no idea.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:32:10] He just saw that I was excited and he wanted to mirror me. So I just I just closed the door in his face you know and I’m sure that that you know the encounter ended with him flipping me off because that’s usually what magazine sales encounters end with anyway. But anyway so that was my story about the Stoerner thing. Some guy was trying to sell me the magazines at the time. But you know the other thing is the Auburn game was incredible. That was Shawn Ellis.

Brad Shepard: [00:32:46] Goal line? Yeah.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:32:47] Well there was a line stand. So I mean they were on the one yard line and ran four consecutive plays and got stopped. Couldn’t get a yard four times in a row. That was awesome. And then Shawn Ellis I don’t know how long it was 60 70 80 yards or something. And he ran it back and the best thing about that is John Ward’s call. He’s sitting there. He’s he’s explaining it. You know the whole time when he gets it then he says, “HE MADE IT.”.

Brad Shepard: [00:33:13] You know that’s the best man he’s the best.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:33:21] And you know I remember the guys talking about how you could measure that. That interception return with the sundial you could time it with a sundial. So anyway there’s a bunch of great stuff from that season just love it. Hopefully you know hopefully they’ll be playing that stuff and we’ll be reminiscing during a good game against Florida. Because if it’s a bad game it just gives you a you know I remember it against Alabama several years ago. They were talking about you know I think it must’ve been 10, 10 years. And so it seemed like hey Vols fans remember when we were good? You know just everything every time out. So hopefully we’ll.

[00:34:07] It’s sad that they’ve gotten to that point. I mean I do I do feel like yeah I mean I felt like especially after the whole Currie debacle that when Fulmer got in there. My first thought was he is this this is not going to continue to happen on his watch. And you know I think I’ve said it before and I love I love Fulmer so I mean it’s it’s I don’t mean this in any disrespectful way toward him. But there is no but I mean as much as you and me and Will and everybody else loves Tennessee. There is nobody in this world that loves Tennessee like Phil loves Tennessee and as much as I love Phil as much as you and Will love Phil. There’s nobody in the world that loves Phil more than Phil loves Phil, so maybe you know I think that he sees this as an opportunity to man you know if I not only have I won a championship here but if I can get this program back you know where it’s supposed to be. Now they’re going to put a statue of me out here and I think we should. Because I mean we have been mired in such misery for years and I just I don’t know that I mean you know I just think that Fulmer is you can tell by the way by the money he’s pumping into the program by the player personnel staff the off the field coaches and that he’s outfitting the program with, all of these things that he’s doing. He’s going to do whatever it takes to get Tennessee football back right. And as I’ve said and I’ve written a million times, if you get football right everything else falls in line. The rest of the athletic department even your academics because kids want to come to the school they want to come to school because of football and it’s just it’s this cycle that is if you fix football everything else falls in line. And I think Tennessee is I’m not saying they’re going to fix it this year and I’m not saying it’s definitely going to get fixed but they’re doing the things it takes to fix right now and that’s that’s something we can all be excited about whether it’s now or whether it’s five years from now.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:36:21] One of his greatest strengths was he was that really consummate CEO kind of head coach and he had really good coordinators and he instilled loyalty in his coaching staff. So many of them stuck around for so long. I know that Cutcliffe took off for a couple of opportunities but Chavis was there the whole time. Cutcliffe came back. Anyway so I think he’s in the right role now as a CEO you know keeping all of the right people in the right places. So I’m excited about it plus the fact that the way things went down as ugly as it was, it really provides him today with just the right kind of motivation to do a really good job.

Brad Shepard: [00:37:09] I want to see him shake Major’s hand. I mean that would make me, I mean I know it’s not ever going to happen but if I would I would feel like I think that I feel like that if something happens and that and that rift can somehow be mended somewhat. And like I said it will never happen but if it would happen that it could be like you know the two the two broken separate worlds can come back together as one. But you know that’s wishful thinking.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:37:40] You know I don’t know that it won’t ever happen. I just was searching one of our daily roundups a while ago seemed to suggest . . . Yeah there’s a story by a site called Vols Wire . . . oh sorry. That’s the wrong Majors. That was Bobby. Oh all right well so you’re right. Yeah that’s never going to happen. But yeah it would be nice to see.

Brad Shepard: [00:38:13] As someone who spoke to Johnny a couple of years ago for a story I was doing on Gus Manning, I would be stunned if it happened. I would be stunned.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:38:22] That’s too bad to see, I would love to see that.

Brad Shepard: [00:38:25] Yeah me too.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:38:27] All right, well that’ll do it for this edition of the Gameday on Rocky Top Podcast. We’re probably going to have shorter but more frequent ones from now on. We’ll see how that goes. We’re sort of playing it by ear. We got to get Will back on the field and you know give him a little education as to selling his shoes and all that stuff. So anyway check us out on iTunes and Soundcloud and we still I’m going to post this one to TalkShoe, too. We have not been able to actually get the feed switched over yet because I can’t log into iTunes I don’t know what’s up with that. Trying to make this move in this transition is like I got the internet equivalent of two guys and a truck trying to figure it out. So but we will get it figured out. So right now we’re going to be dual posting the latest episode at Soundcloud and at TalkShoe, but until next time I’m Joel Hollingsworth and I am with Brad Shepard and we hope you have a great night and Go Vols.

Brad Shepard: [00:39:35] Go Vols.

TOPICS

[00:00:23] Where’s Jeremy Pruitt?
[00:03:11] What are you looking forward to the most right now?
[00:10:01] The Gameday on Rocky Top Podcast is transitioning to a new feed.
[00:13:29] Are you more “wait and see” now, today, than you were five years ago when Butch Jones was hired?
[00:22:17] What’s the best coaching job in the last 10 years?
[00:30:21] What position group do you think we’ll be talking about the most by the end of the season?
[00:40:51] Thoughts on West Virginia being a 9.5-point favorite, and Tennessee’s chances of pulling off the upset.

TRANSCRIPT

Will Shelton: [00:00:14] Welcome in to the Gameday on Rocky Top Podcast. Will Shelton, Joel Hollingsworth Brad Shepard. It is 9:39 on Wednesday night.

Will Shelton: [00:00:23] The good news is the Braves are up 8 to 3 on NATS which is really exciting. The bad news is we don’t know where Jeremy Pruitt is. And so earlier today there was was that have media availability at 5 o’clock.

Will Shelton: [00:00:37] UT canceled it because “something suddenly came up.” We joked before we went on the air that just we have such like spouse abuse syndrome as Tennessee fans. My first thought was did he fall on a helmet. So yeah you know I’m sure we’ll continue on here as as business as usual. But hopefully Jeremy Pruitt’s whereabouts and the reason for his disappearance a few hours ago will manifest themselves while we’re sitting here talking but I’m not the only one. Guys I be like that when I see that and hear that immediately. And there’s been lots people who’ve made of good jokes on Twitter.

Will Shelton: [00:01:18] Mark Nagi tweeted out the picture of Bud Ford from the night Kiffin left.

Brad Shepard: [00:01:24] I was gonna say, my couch is out in my front yard and my lighter’s waiting on go.

Will Shelton: [00:01:28] That said my Tennessee fans by our lighters are always ready so we just see.

Will Shelton: [00:01:36] Before that happened today I was going to lead into this with like is when we talk about what we’re looking forward to like normal. I would enjoy just some normalcy just for a minute even if it’s six and six. Like just normal.

Will Shelton: [00:01:50] Let’s talk about the team. Let’s talk about X’s and O’s. Let’s talk about who are excited about and not have to fight amongst ourselves or be anxious or any of that stuff. But clearly it’s going to take a little bit for it’s going to take some normal. I think here over over a number of seasons for us to get out of this sort of funk of if it can go wrong it will for Tennessee but we’ll start there I guess for both you guys. Is there something in particular with this team this season that you find yourselves looking forward to on our preseason magazine. You know we talked about that it’s we’re not doing bravado or bricks or britches it’s just it’s just football and as folks who write about Tennessee and talk about Tennessee it’s exhausting. The last few years even the good times were really exhausting I think because of some failures by Butch Jones the first couple of years to really make a stronger statement and punched that clock so early in his tenure.

Will Shelton: [00:02:55] But I think just the chance just enjoy football assuming everything is alright with coach just enjoy football and some normalcy is really kind of what I’m looking forward to the most at this point here just a few weeks before kickoff.

Will Shelton: [00:03:11] Joel what are you looking forward to the most right now.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:03:15] You know my heads don’t swimming because I hadn’t heard that news. So you know I’m thinking he’s up in Columbus. I think I’m trying to figure out where Haslam’s plane is. You know I don’t know. So anyway.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:03:30] Can you ask me the question again.

Brad Shepard: [00:03:33] I think we can still get Mike Leach.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:03:36] OK well that’s fine. You know you’re probably right whatever we do. Has he signed his contract. That’s another question. You know they say you asked me what I was looking forward to, I think.

Will Shelton: [00:03:48] Aside from that but you know Butch Jones is available as well.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:03:53] And he’s cheap. Now he’s into he’s really cheap.

Brad Shepard: [00:03:56] Because of what we’re already paying him through. Yeah. All right.

Will Shelton: [00:04:03] Thirty five thousand dollar internship is a pretty good deal. Like I would I would I would have enjoyed one of those earlier in my life.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:04:10] So yeah there would have been nice. So OK here’s what’s been going on with me because of the last 10 years I have I’ve I’ve I’m in wait and see mode like I never have been before.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:04:25] You know just because everything every year you get my hopes up. I got a list of five reasons why everything is going to be hunky dory and then it all comes crashing down and so like this year I’m like well you know I don’t know I can’t really find anything that I’m like super excited about.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:04:40] Today was actually the first day where I started thinking of a couple of things that might actually go right. Because I started looking at the roster and if you look at the improvements that he’s made and the roster in just the short time that he’s been here he’s done a lot. He’s added guys that fit his blueprint a bunch a bunch of guys through recruiting and through graduate transfers and JUCO and then even the guys that are on staff he’s just you know he’s he’s molded them into the people he wants them to be.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:05:15] Hey you you gain weight. You gain height.

Will Shelton: [00:05:19] It’s like The Hulk.

Brad Shepard: [00:05:22] I love that you talk like a caveman when you talk like Pruitt, that makes me so happy.

Will Shelton: [00:05:25] HULK DO BENCH.

Joel Hollingsworth: [00:05:28] So yeah he’s doing some stuff right. And he’s doing some stuff. And then also I looked at the injury stuff again today which I know it’s tempting fate. But last year this time I think it was on this day last year or like Hey 2016 the injuries were terrible. That can’t happen again. Right. And of course it did happen again and it was actually worse in 2017. But but this year really it can’t happen again can it? So I think we’re going to have a lot of our good players back there are all be up and macho and making Brad happy. So yeah there’s there’s two things to look forward to right there.

Will Shelton: [00:06:12] You mentioned a couple of things I want to come back to to touch on. Let’s go to Brad.

Will Shelton: [00:06:15] First the stuff you’re really looking forward to at this point as we get into the you know the like there’s there’s practice updates every day except for today and there’s you know there’s like pictures in and here’s who looked good today like this is the time of year for these kinds of exciting sorts of things. What are you looking forward right now.

Brad Shepard: [00:06:36] Brad we know Joel stole stole the first part of my answer because I feel the exact same way. This is the first time that I can ever remember where I’m not cautiously optimistic. I’m not anything I’m just kind of you know.

Brad Shepard: [00:06:52] You know I can sit here and tell you that I like everything about it that I’ve heard so far and I do like a lot of the stuff I like.

[00:06:58] I like that he is kind of a breath of fresh air as far as honesty goes and he’s not sitting here you know pumping rainbows up our tails and that’s that. I like that in a football coach but we don’t we don’t know anything about how he’s going to run the program how the program’s going to look under him. We don’t know really a lot about what our how our offense is going to look. We don’t know how we’re going to transition to 3 4 so quickly or what our personnel looks like in that scheme. So there are a lot of huge ifs and you know a lot of things but you look at on paper and you think you know this team is one big you know square peg trying to be pushed into this round hole of this new scheme or this new coaching regime.

Brad Shepard: [00:07:44] But they knew you know you think well last years square peg was you know the worst square peg that Tennessee’s ever had in the history of the program and everything kind of went wrong. And at the end of the year it was just a matter of how bad it was going to be was it going to be the worst ever. Or you know was it just going to be really really bad. And that’s a bad position for all of us to be in. And so it’s hard to think it’s going to be worse than last year which you know means it’s going to be better. So I guess that’s something to be cautiously optimistic about is that you know it can’t be worse. I’m just like you guys I’m sick of this cycle of hope every few years but that’s kind of what we’ve been.

Brad Shepard: [00:08:29] And you know you just kind of have to hope at this point that that what we had on the magazine is is is true and realistic and legitimate and that’s that we’re back to football coaches that like to talk football and live and breathe football and the players that you know wanna play football and these guys know how to coach football and if that’s the case then I believe they’re going to recruit we’ll enough and develop we’ll enough to eventually win games. So I’m looking forward to the development.

Brad Shepard: [00:09:02] I’m looking forward to as I’ve written a couple of times this offseason you know really kind of seeing some of these Pruitt diamonds and seeing because we’re going to see a lot of apply this year we’re already hearing practice reports about a guy like Cedric Tillman at receiver and JUCO transfer Kenny George or Kenneth George at cornerback and you know just some guys like that Jeremy Banks running back Kurott Garland and Kingston Harris at defensive tackle. Guys that are probably going to get some reps this year. Those were guys that weren’t necessarily heavily recruited so we’ll get it.

Brad Shepard: [00:09:39] We’ll get an opportunity to see what Pruitt’s evaluation skills and development skills are pretty early so I think that how those guys pan out kind of will will give us at least a glimpse into the future. So that’s something that I’m excited about this year. So really just kind of the growth of the program I guess would be the the short answer. Continue reading “The Gameday on Rocky Top Podcast Returns: 2018 Tennessee Football Preview”

In this edition of the podcast, Will, Brad, and I preview this weekend’s Kentucky game, talk about close games and point differentials, and play this week’s GRT Guessing Game.