Tennessee vs NC State Preview

There is no chalk in Atlantis. The seventh-place game features #2 Arizona and #18 Purdue. #5 Villanova won’t see either of them this trip (not that their tournament resume should need the help). And Tennessee, who was supposed to lose to Purdue then face a pair of mid-major foes, will leave the Bahamas with three power conference opponents on their resume.

As such things go, it was always going to be better for the Vols to beat Purdue and lose to Villanova and in the third place game than lose to Purdue and beat two mid-majors. Now, with Wednesday’s quality win checked off the list and the strength-of-schedule boost from facing Villanova added to it, Tennessee gets one more chance to improve their standing in facing NC State.

1. Mark Gottfried -> Kevin Keatts

Last year NC State went 11-2 in non-conference play, then 4-14 in ACC play. Thus ended Mark Gottfried’s time in Raleigh: six years and a pair of Sweet 16’s in the first four, but sub-.500 seasons the last two years. Kevin Keatts is in after three years at UNC-Wilmington and three CAA titles.

Also new is graduate transfer Allerik Freeman, a two-year starter at Baylor. The 6’3″ guard was a 38.9% three-point shooter last year, and is an instant impact scorer for the Wolfpack this season with 16.2 points per game despite shooting just 26.7% from the arc so far. He had 24 in their upset of Arizona in the first round. NC State is 5-1 and 89th in KenPom.

2. Run Run Wolfpack

Tennessee played a 40 minute slugfest with Purdue to get it to overtime, then beat the Boilermakers at a much faster pace to win the extra five minutes. Against Villanova the Vols scored 46 points in the first half. Tennessee’s early returns suggest a team capable of winning a number of different ways.

Today we’ll see how they handle a faster tempo. NC State is 57th on this young season in pace of play, and averages 85.1 points per game. Northern Iowa didn’t slow them down so much as play good defense: in their 64-60 win yesterday, the Wolfpack shot just 33.8% from the floor, 8-of-30 (26.7%) from the arc, and 8-of-13 (61.5%) from the line. It has to feel like a game they should have won from NC State’s perspective.

3. What are we learning about Tennessee?

Take away a couple of bad stretches against Villanova – which will happen against one of the very best teams in the nation – and the Vols have played really good basketball on both ends of the floor. Turnovers led to a flurry of transition buckets for the Wildcats; Tennessee hasn’t been great in transition defense, but the Vols are also getting enough offense (and emphasizing offensive rebound enough) to not find themselves on their heels very often. We’ll see how that plays itself out at a faster pace today.

But two very good signs early for the Vols:  one, Tennessee is shooting 40% from the arc on this young season. It may never be a strength for this team, but they shot in the low 30’s last season. If a performance like 6-of-20 against Villanova can be the basement instead of the average, the Vols are going to win a lot more games this year. Lamonte Turner is 8-of-20 and Jordan Bowden 8-of-15, and they’re both getting much better looks than they saw last year due to better work inside from Grant Williams as well as John Fulkerson and Kyle Alexander.

Two, the Vols have generally played good defense. Purdue shot 37.3% against Tennessee. Villanova’s transition game fueled a stellar second half; the Wildcats finished at 46% from the floor. The Vols have also been hurt by really strong free throw shooting from the other side:  Purdue and Villanova went 54-of-62 (87.1%). That’s not going to show up every night.

How well Tennessee defends today will go a long way to determining how successful this weekend can ultimately be. The resume will be better than it was pre-Bahamas either way, and as long as Purdue gets their act together the Vols have a resume win. But going home 4-1 with a near miss against Villanova and two power conference wins would be a big step forward for this program.

Tennessee’s last day in Atlantis tips off at 2:30 PM ET on ESPN2. Go Vols.

 

Tennessee vs Villanova Preview

 

I tweeted after the win over Purdue that it was Tennessee’s most valuable victory since Cuonzo Martin’s tenure. To be clear, Rick Barnes and Donnie Tyndall both won games that were big in the moment; any victory over Kentucky is better than beating Purdue on a neutral floor. But in terms of the difference it can make in Tennessee’s season, this is the most valuable win since Tennessee’s run to the 2014 Sweet 16.

We use RPI Wizard a lot on this site; you can use their up-to-the-minute RPI plus Jeff Sagarin’s power ratings to project an end-of-year RPI, plus change any game to a win or loss to see how it might affect the outcome. It’s way too early to worry about overall RPI or any fluid ratings; Sagarin projected the Vols to be around .500 before today, which will certainly change. But even keeping those early projections, it is interesting to note the projected difference in the final RPI based on different outcomes in the Bahamas:

  • L Purdue, W Western Kentucky, W NC State: RPI 76
  • W Purdue, L Villanova, L SMU: RPI 74
  • W Purdue, L Villanova, W SMU: RPI 58

It was better for Tennessee to win today and lose the next two games than lose to Purdue and beat two lesser foes. But even if the Vols fall to Villanova and win the third place game (assuming #2 Arizona is in the finals from the other side of the bracket), the win over Purdue would ultimately create an opportunity to be 15-20 spots better in RPI by March.

There are plenty of what-ifs when you play overtime, and both teams would prefer not to turn the ball over a combined 33 times. But the Vols survived Purdue going 21-of-25 at the free throw line (while Tennessee was only 11-of-12) by grabbing a staggering 20 offensive rebounds. Nine of those came from Grant Williams and Kyle Alexander against Purdue’s tall trees.

Last year the Vols would have needed to be the team shooting 25 free throws to win a game like this. We said in our season preview Tennessee needed better offense to get better shots, because the Vols struggled to win ugly last year. In their first meaningful contest today, ugly was beautiful:

  • Last year the Vols were 1-11 when shooting less than 39.5%. Today they won shooting just 36.3%.
  • Last year the Vols were 3-15 when they had 15 assists or less. Today they won with 14 assists and 15 turnovers.
  • And in overtime, when the game got a lot prettier, the Vols kept pace. Tennessee tied Purdue in 40 minutes of regulation in a game in the low 60’s, then beat them in five minutes of overtime played at the pace of a game in the 100’s.

And they did this against #18 Purdue, a team with legitimate Final Four aspirations coming in; the Boilermakers were 11th in KenPom coming into today.

Up next: Villanova, the number one team in the nation in KenPom coming into today.

If Purdue tested Tennessee’s readiness, Villanova will test their ceiling. The 2016 champs were 31-3 last year heading back to the tournament, but were stunned by Wisconsin 65-62 in the second round. They lost first round draft pick Josh Hart and title hero Kris Jenkins, but the rest of their crew is back.

How do you go 31-3? Last year Nova was eighth nationally in field goal percentage, second in two-point percentage, and third in free throw percentage. Then they defended without fouling, allowing just 445 free throws in 36 games (12.3 per game), the second fewest in the nation despite playing extra tournament games.

The primary test with Purdue was inside, but the opposite will be true with the Wildcats. Guards Mikal Bridges, Jalen Brunson, and Donte DiVincenzo lead the way; those three combined for 49 of their 66 points in an eight-point win over Western Kentucky. 6’9″ Eric Paschall is also a threat. And the defending without fouling thing held up again:  WKU attempted four free throws, ensuring a loss despite shooting 7-of-11 from the arc.

Take away a scoreless minute from Yves Pones, and the Vols played a 10-man rotation against Purdue. Six players did the heavy lifting, all of them veterans:  the starting five of Bone, Bowden, Schofield, Williams, and Alexander all played 26-34 minutes, and Lamonte Turner added 33 off the bench while scoring 17 points. But we saw both Schofield (team-high 34 minutes) and Bone get banged up late; Schofield returned from a shoulder scare while Bone’s ankle kept him off the floor late, and it’ll be interesting to see how ready they are 24 hours later.

Turner and Williams will get the praise, but the biggest deal today was Kyle Alexander:  13 points and 11 rebounds while dealing with two seven footers from Purdue. He had two critical buckets in overtime, one of them a three. We’ll need to see more of that before we can expect it, but if Alexander can help Tennessee win big games down the stretch? That’s a big difference between last year and this one.

Purdue was a gatekeeper game; now that the Vols are through they’ll reap the strength-of-schedule benefits in a pure opportunity test against Villanova. Another golden opportunity would presumably await against #2 Arizona if Tennessee wins…but if Tennessee beats Purdue and Villanova on consecutive days, I’m not sure the bubble is the most relevant conversation. The Vols got their quality win and have given themselves a chance to make a serious upgrade in their resume with another win on Friday. Or they could beat Villanova, and we’ll start talking about loftier things.

It’s been a long autumn around here. Today was excellent. Let’s do that again.

Go Vols.

Tennessee vs Purdue Preview at the Battle 4 Atlantis

 

Opportunity knocks, and she is a lot taller than us.

Tennessee will open the Battle 4 Atlantis on Wednesday at 12:00 PM ET (ESPN2) against #18 Purdue. The Boilermakers have been busy: wins over SIU-Edwardsville, Chicago State, and Fairfield by a combined 132 points. More importantly, they won at Marquette (#55 KenPom) 86-71.

1. Seriously, these dudes are tall.

Purdue was a four-seed in last year’s NCAA Tournament, playing their way to the Sweet 16 before getting obliterated by Kansas. They lost power forward Caleb Swanigan to the first round of the NBA Draft, but all the other contributors are back. That starts with 7’2″ Isaac Haas, averaging 13.5 points and six rebounds in just 18.8 minutes per game so far this year. 6’1″ guard Carson Edwards is shouldering some of Swanigan’s scoring load, getting 18.5 per game so far. And Dakota Mathias makes Purdue an inside-out nightmare: you can double-down on Haas, but Mathias shot 45.3% from the arc last year and is 13-of-16 (81.3%!) so far this year.

Add in 6’8″ Vincent Edwards (averaging a 15-9) and senior guard P.J. Thompson, and you’ve got five guys averaging double figures. And no worries:  when Haas comes out, they replace him, impossibly, with someone even taller in 7’3″ freshman Matt Haarms of the Netherlands.

2. Purdue runs one of the most effective offenses in college basketball.

It’s a small sample size, but as of Monday night the Boilermakers were fifth nationally in field goal percentage, seventh in three point percentage, 11th in blocked shots, and fourth in points per game. But don’t count on it being a fluke:  last year Purdue was 28th in field goal percentage and ninth in three point percentage (40.3%). They are currently seventh in Ken Pomeroy’s offensive ratings. The Vols are currently 34th in those same defensive ratings. But the task, if you will, is tall.

In two games, the Vols have nine players averaging 15+ minutes. One of them is Kyle Alexander, who is of course the only player in orange who can even attempt to look this Purdue front line in the eye. Tennessee did play great basketball on the offensive end at an extreme size disadvantage at Chapel Hill last year, but were still largely undone by 22 offensive rebounds from the Tar Heels.

Tennessee is currently 38th in KenPom and looked as good as you can against the low-level competition they’ve faced. Purdue is a great opportunity, especially with #5 Villanova probably awaiting the winner, but a bad match-up for the Vols on paper. A victory could be a gold mine in RPI and tournament resume. But even if it’s defeat, we’ll learn a lot more about how Rick Barnes wants his rotation to look.

3. …but Tennessee has the makings of their own effective offense.

The Vols have their own inside-out game working in the early going, and would really like to do a younger, smaller version of the Boilermakers’ offensive identity. Tennessee’s most important player is also inside; Grant Williams is averaging 11 points and 9.5 rebounds in 23 minutes, and is 10-of-14 at the free throw line. Admiral Schofield leads the team in scoring so far and is 8-of-9 at the line. And so far, the Vols have been hot from three at 45.2%. Schofield is 4-of-7, Jordan Bone 3-of-4, Jordan Bowden 5-of-7, and Lamonte Turner 4-of-9. The early returns show a much better shooting team; it won’t be so easy against Purdue, but getting good shots through a more effective offense continues to be one of the most important steps this team can take.

Tennessee will need all of that and more to beat Purdue. But even if the Vols fall here to a Final Four contender, continuing to play this well on the offensive end can take the Vols where they want to go this season. It’s a golden opportunity where victory puts you several steps closer to the tournament, but should be educational regardless of outcome. The winner likely gets #5 Villanova, the loser likely gets Western Kentucky.

On fan expectations if it’s not Jon Gruden

I have no idea who Tennessee’s next coach is going to be, and no idea what percentage is reasonable to believe on Jon Gruden. Things seem to be further down the road with Gruden than they were five years ago, but that doesn’t mean that road is going somewhere. Was there a 3% chance in 2012, and now there’s a 15% chance? That’s five times more likely this time around…and still far more likely than not the answer is no.

So, what if the answer is no?

There seems to be a narrative developing that the Tennessee fan base is so infatuated with Gruden, we will accept no substitutes. In a conversation on the Sports Source yesterday, Jimmy Hyams said, “A very prominent booster told me recently that two coaches that you might think would be on the list said they’re not interested, because of all this uproar.”

You can choose your level of obsession in this search. As no one seems to know exactly what John Currie is thinking anyway, you can wait it out or check in at the end of each day. Or you can burn through an F5 button or two chasing down every last rumor. But no matter how passionately one chooses to follow the #Grumors, and no matter how crazy they may get (and it doesn’t get much crazier than Calhounsgate), a couple of things should ultimately make 2017’s uproar much more sensible.

One, the perception five years ago was that Tennessee didn’t make a full effort to land Gruden. I don’t know much reality this perception truly represents, but the idea that Gruden would have commanded more money than Tennessee was willing to pay at the time was prevalent. The November 2012 report from Stephen Hargis at the Chattanooga Times-Free Press specifically mentioned pay for Gruden’s potential staff as a point of contention.

Other journalists disputed that story, and we’ve seen something similar this year. John Brice and GoVols247’s Grant Ramey reported the Vols flew to Tampa last week to pitch to Gruden again. This story too has been disputed. But a report like this can go a long way in the perception of Tennessee’s search, even if John Currie is introducing someone else at a press conferene. Whatever it’s worth, the tone on Tennessee message boards this week has also shifted from five years ago. There is a much greater sense that if the Vols are making the pitch, this time they’re making it knowing the cost. That if Jon Gruden chooses to stay in the NFL or on Monday Night Football, it won’t be because of anything Tennessee didn’t do.

And hey, it’s no sin to say no. If Gruden doesn’t want to coach in college, okay. You can’t make the man do something he doesn’t want to do.

This is where the other significant difference from five years ago would come in:  Dave Hart introduced Butch Jones after reportedly missing out on Charlie Strong at the last minute. On the morning of December 5, Charlie Strong was the front-runner. On the evening of December 5, Strong stayed at Louisville. And on the evening of December 6, it became clear Butch Jones would get the offer from Tennessee.

Again, so much of this is perception. Charlie Strong was at Louisville, had been at Florida as defensive coordinator, and was a popular choice among Tennessee fans. Butch Jones was at Cincinnati, had been at Central Michigan, and was viewed as a hurried reactionary move when the Vols lost out on Strong.

Whenever people make a big deal about Dave Hart being asked about Jon Gruden at Butch’s first press conference, I always wonder if the same questions would have been raised if Hart was introducing Strong. Even with the perception that the Vols didn’t fully pursue Gruden, Strong would have been an A hire; he got one of the most coveted jobs in football a year later. Butch Jones felt like having to settle, and the worst way to settle is to not know for sure if you could’ve had the one you really wanted.

This time, I think we’ll feel like we took our shot at Gruden. And this time, Tennessee has a better chance to make a better hire that isn’t him.

It doesn’t have to be from that conference champion proven winners list (Jimbo Fisher, Gary Patterson, Chris Petersen, etc.), the guys you call just in case. If John Currie is introducing Dan Mullen next week? That’s a win for Tennessee. If Scott Frost can somehow be pulled from Nebraska? That’s a W. Or perhaps John Currie has something else up his sleeve. There are good hires out there, and if Tennessee made a serious pitch at Gruden’s level, it gives one confidence in this administration to do the same elsewhere.

There is, of course, a less proven group of names further down your hot board from which a good coach may emerge. But there are simply more questions with this group, which will mean more questions for John Currie and the administration if the search gets this far down the list. Especially if Chip Kelly is at Florida.

But the uproar is understandable for a program that wants to win. For a decade, Vol fans have been left with no other choice but patience. Alabama went 10 years between Stallings and Saban, but Mike DuBose won the SEC in 1999 and Mike Shula won 10 games in 2005. Notre Dame went 13 years between Holtz and Kelly, but Ty Willingham won 10 games in 2002 and Charlie Weis made back-to-back BCS bowls his first two years. Other proud programs had brief peaks in otherwise lengthy valleys. In 10 years, Tennessee has done no better than a pair of 9-4’s under Butch Jones that both felt disappointing because they were. Tennessee fans are tired of being asked to be patient, which is a big part of Gruden’s allure. Gruden feels like winning today! But I believe there are other good hires out there to make us believe we will be a winner tomorrow.

I believe the uproar will also ultimately subside, not because the Vols hire Gruden, but because fans can believe the Vols did their due diligence and will put themselves in position to make a good hire. Every fan base has its unhealthy edges; coaching search + message boards + Twitter + 10 years isn’t the formula for our best selves.

But I also believe all this uproar isn’t the best way you judge a fan base; it’s selling 96,000 tickets and having many of those thousands cheer in the rain for a winless SEC team at the end of a forgettable season. That’s Tennessee. That’s a fan base a good coach will discover is a blessing, not a curse.

And I’m hopeful that’s exactly what Tennessee will get.

 

 

 

 

 

Tennessee 2018 Depth Chart First Draft

 

Whether it’s Jon Gruden, Dan Mullen, a surprise or someone further down the list, somebody is going to coach this team next year. What will Tennessee’s next coach inherit?

This is our first, rough draft of Tennessee’s 2018 depth chart. The point isn’t to squabble over why one guy is over another on the first team; generally I went with who played most often this season and will leave conversations like, “Why doesn’t Tyler Byrd play more?” for the off-season and the next coach. It also does not assume newcomers will step in and contribute meaningfully right away, except where the depth chart has a hole that cannot be filled by anyone other than a true freshman. We obviously don’t know about transfers, and this depth chart assumes everyone who can return to school will do so.

As you’ll see, many of these names are already playing big roles for the Vols. Tennessee’s games down the stretch this fall matter most for how they get this team ready for next fall, especially guys like Guarantano and Shawn Shamburger.

Take a look:

Pos. First Team Year Second Team Year
QB Jarrett Guarantano RSo Quinten Dormady Sr
RB John Kelly Sr Ty Chandler So
WR Jauan Jennings RJr Josh Palmer So
WR Marquez Callaway Jr Jordan Murphy So
WR Brandon Johnson Jr Tyler Byrd Jr
TE Austin Pope RSo Eli Wolf RJr
OT Drew Richmond RJr K’Rojhn Calbert RFr
OG Ryan Johnson RSo Riley Locklear So
C
OG Trey Smith So Ollie Lane Fr
OT Marcus Tatum Jr Devante Brooks RSo
DE Kyle Phillips Sr Jonathan Kongbo RSr
DT Shy Tuttle Sr Quay Picou Sr
DT Kahlil McKenzie Sr Alexis Johnson RSr
DE Darrell Taylor RJr Matthew Butler So
LB Darrin Kirkland Jr. RJr Quart’e Sapp RJr
LB Daniel Bituli Jr Austin Smith RJr
CB Shawn Shamburger So Cheyenne Labruzza RFr
CB Marquill Osborne Jr Jaycee Horn Fr
NB Rashaan Gaulden RSr Baylen Buchanan Jr
S Nigel Warrior Jr Todd Kelly Jr. RSr
S Micah Abernathy Sr Theo Jackson So
K Brent Cimaglia So
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A couple of observations:

Good News

  • If consistent quarterback play emerges, the Vols can be dangerous at the skill positions. John Kelly, Ty Chandler, Jauan Jennings, and Marquez Callaway are all proven threats. And other than John Kelly, all of those players would be eligible to return in 2019.
  • If healthy, the Vols can also be dangerous up the middle of their defense. Senior editions of Tuttle and McKenzie in the middle, the return of a healthy Darrin Kirkland Jr. with Bituli beside him at linebacker, and all three safeties again available (assuming a redshirt for Todd Kelly Jr.). That’s a ton of returning experience. If the new coaches can continue to develop Kyle Phillips and Darrell Taylor off the end, the front seven (or six) can be a positive force for the Vols in 2018.
  • Lane Kiffin, Derek Dooley, and Butch Jones all had to start freshmen right away. The next coach shouldn’t have to do the same, give or take an offensive lineman. There are holes here, but not many of them will show up immediately. Strong work on the recruiting trail for 2019 will be of vital importance, but right now this program is deeper and stronger than what at least Dooley and Butch Jones walked into.

Just News

  • Tennessee must replace both its starting corners, and will lose the services of the Shaq Wiggins experiment that never quite turned out. But play at this position hasn’t been particularly strong this year, and Shawn Shamburger has shown flashes. There are few proven options behind him – highly-rated but yet-to-arrive Marquill Osborne, plus a redshirt freshman in Labruzza and a true freshman in Horn, if he stays committed. But the bar for overall improvement at the position is low, and if Rashaan Gaulden returns the Vols will still have some good news at corner/nickel.
  • The Vols would love to have an answer to their quarterback question that still leaves the team with a capable backup, whether that’s Dormady, Will McBride, or incoming four-star Adrian Martinez.

Bad News

  • The Vols have a major issue on the offensive line. I’ve listed every scholarship lineman available for 2018, not including Chance Hall and Nathan Niehaus, neither of whom may return from health issues to play football again. I’ve also included three-star commit Ollie Lane at guard; the Vols also hold a commitment from three-star tackle Tanner Antonutti. That’s nine scholarship linemen for next fall at the moment. Who plays center? If Trey Smith slides out to tackle for good, how does that change things on the interior? Can anyone talk Venzell Boulware into coming back to the program? Even if you put Cade Mays back in the mix, this is a serious problem requiring immediate attention from the new coach in recruiting/junior college. As good as Tennessee’s skill players can be, if you can’t block in this league, you’re not going far.
  • Four years of Ethan Wolf will give way to a big question mark at tight end. Can his little brother help fill the void? How often will the new guy want to use the tight end?
  • Who punts?
  • The Vols could have a major issue on the defensive line in 2019. Developing young talent at defensive tackle, including incoming players like Greg Emerson and D’Andre Litaker, will be of critical importance for the future. If healthy Tennessee won’t need many of them next fall, but might need all of them in 2019.

What stands out to you for the Vols on the field next fall?

Early Reactions to Tennessee’s Coaching Search

 

From a fan perspective, it does indeed feel good to look forward. There hasn’t been real doubt the Vols would have a new coach since the end of the Kentucky game three weeks ago, and I do think John Currie made the decision he felt was best for the program in waiting to fire Butch Jones. But there is freedom in both being able to look forward officially, and staying in the present with this team the last two weeks of the season. The Vols are heavy underdogs against LSU, but change at the top helps one be invested in not just player development but the actual outcome these last two weeks.

Here’s everything we’ve done in the first 48 hours of this search:

One way we’ve found interesting to take the temperature of the fanbase and power rank this search:  which of those 22 coaching profiles are generating the most traffic?

  1. Jon Gruden. Obviously. The white whale remains at large, and reports of him contacting former UT players to fill out his staff will do nothing to slow the frenzy. Gruden is the quickest way to get a percentage of the fanbase to pretend they really loved Randy Sanders all along. He’s an Assistant Coach Al Wilson short of an idiot optimist coaching staff.
  2. Scott Frost. Yeah baby. Check out the podcast above to hear Brad and I compete to see who loves Frost more. It’s clearly an opinion held by more than just us; as discussed in the advanced statistical analysis post, Frost has Central Florida fifth nationally in S&P+. This is far more than the mid-major flavor of the month, and Frost isn’t just the most popular name on our site beyond Gruden. He might legitimately be the first choice of Tennessee and a number of others, and I would argue he should be.
  3. Greg Schiano. Ohio State’s defensive coordinator went 3-20 the first two years at Rutgers, then 65-47 after that before heading to the NFL for two years. His name hasn’t been the first one or two out of anyone’s mouth in this search, but he’s a bigger name than many of those seemingly ahead of him in the pecking order and would check a lot of boxes between Rutgers and Ohio State. Would he be a good fit in Knoxville?
  4. Dan Mullen. If Gruden is the clubhouse leader in dreams and Frost among up-and-comers, it seems to me Mullen is an early leader if we ask who is most likely to actually be coming to the podium in a few weeks. We covered Mullen’s strengths in the advanced statistical analysis post; I’m a big fan of his and think he would be an excellent fit here.
  5. Gary Patterson. Don’t think anyone would be disappointed here. Patterson floated his involvement in Tennessee’s 2008 search last week. He’s been at TCU since 2000 with six Top 10 finishes since 2005, by far the most proven winner in college football on this list. If he did finally make a move from Fort Worth, I’m sure Tennessee fans would be thrilled to have him. If he truly is a realistic option, where would he rank on your list?

These are the names generating the most interest on our site. How do these and others stack up for you?

Which coaches get the most out of their teams?

How do you judge a football team?

Wins and losses are the best way to rank them, but there has to be more involved in the best way to rate them. Games are made up of more than 100 plays; the best rating systems take every one of those snaps into account, not just the final score they produced.

This is one reason we use Bill Connelly’s S&P+ system (along with KenPom for basketball) a lot on this site. We spent the better part of a decade at SB Nation, where his Football Study Hall continues to provide a wealth of statistical knowledge.

A full explanation of S&P+ is available here; essentially it uses five factors to determine a team’s strength:

  • Efficiency (measured by success rate: gaining 50% of the needed yardage on first down, 70% on second down, and 100% on third/fourth down)
  • Explosiveness (measured by points-per-play of successful plays)
  • Finishing Drives (measured by points per trip inside the 40 yard line)
  • Field Position
  • Turnover Margin

S&P+ should not be used to rank teams because it doesn’t care about outcomes. Right now, Ohio State is number one in its ratings. The system doesn’t dock the Buckeyes for having two losses; its only concern is the data from every snap. And play-for-play, it still views Ohio State as the best team in the country. This same system rated the 1993 Vols as the best of Tennessee’s decade of dominance; they tied Alabama and lost by seven in Gainesville, but had a school-record offense en route to winning nine games by an average of 37 points. The 1998 Vols, among others, were more successful. But the 1993 Vols were better play-for-play.

In coaching searches, we tend to focus on just the wins and losses. This is a good starting point, and even a good ending point when circling back around. But a good search is more thorough than simply one’s record. How well your team played (or didn’t play) en route to that record can separate a great prospect from a good one.

For example:

Butch Jones in S&P+

Five years ago, there wasn’t enough time between Charlie Strong’s no and Butch Jones’ yes for fans to form more than an off-the-cuff opinion of Cincinnati’s coach. But one of the initial positive reactions after his hire was, “He knows how to win close games.” And that was true. Moving on from Derek Dooley, the ability to win not just close but meaningful games was important. Butch Jones beat Virginia Tech 27-24 in 2012 and beat Louisville 25-16 in 2011. And Jones has won his share of close, meaningful games at Tennessee.

But looking a little closer, the number of close games Jones was playing should have stood out. In 2011, six of Cincinnati’s last eight games were decided by nine points or less. At Central Michigan, Jones and the Chippewas were in nine one possession games in 2008. Kudos to Jones for winning enough of them to get Cincinnati to 10-3 in both 2011 and 2012. But, as we found out at Tennessee and Florida found out with Jim McElwain, winning a bunch of close games is not the best indicator of one’s coaching ability. In S&P+, Derek Dooley’s 2012 Vols rated higher than Butch Jones’ 2012 Bearcats.

Using S&P+’s percentile performance for each game (data from Tennessee’s advanced statistical profiles at Football Study Hall and SB Nation’s Tennessee season previews), what were Butch Jones’ best performances at Tennessee?

  • 2014 wins over Utah State, Kentucky, and Iowa all scored in the 99th percentile. The Vols won those three games by a combined 82 points, essentially representing the best Tennessee could play against those opponents relative to expectation.
  • Bowl victories against Northwestern (96%) and Nebraska (94%) also stand out. Last year’s Music City Bowl is a good example of what S&P+ reveals: though the Vols won by only two touchdowns, they dominated statistically. Tennessee averaged 6.9 yards per play while giving up just 4.5 yards per play.
  • In bigger games, Jones’ Vols had an 80+ percentile performance rating in the 2015 win over Georgia, the Battle at Bristol, and the 2016 win over Florida. They also showed up well in the 2014 loss at Georgia (another way S&P+ is useful: showing how well you actually played in a loss).

S&P+ also includes a win expectancy statistic:  using those five factor stats in a given game, how often should you expect to win that game? Georgia in ’15 and Florida in ’16 both featured amazing comebacks, but statistically the Vols were superior in the end. The Vols had a 72% win expectancy against Georgia and 81% against Florida; Tennessee wasn’t lucky to finish those comebacks, they were the better team over the course of those sixty minutes.

But win expectancy cuts the other way against Butch Jones a lot, especially this year. The Vols got the win against Georgia Tech despite a 24% win expectancy in S&P+; given those five factor stats, Georgia Tech wins that game 76% of the time. You need wins like this here and there; good teams tend to also be fortunate. But win expectancy shows the rest of Tennessee’s close games this year weren’t really that close:  it gave the Vols an 18% chance to win at Florida, 23% against South Carolina, and 33% against Kentucky. Even though all three of those games (plus Georgia Tech) came down to the final play, the Vols shouldn’t be considered unlucky to have lost them because statistically, they weren’t that close at all.

Walk it back to 2016, and you’ll find something similar. It’s not surprising to see a win expectancy below 50% against Georgia when you won on a hail mary. But close games with Texas A&M (22%) and South Carolina (19%) really weren’t that close on a play-for-play basis. Outcomes like these repeatedly gave Butch Jones a “one play away” narrative. But when you start taking every play into account, the Vols weren’t nearly as close, and usually ended up with the outcome they deserved.

The lesson:  look beyond wins and losses, and look out if you find a bunch of close wins. Hire a coach who does a better job winning every single snap.

Two of Tennessee’s top targets do a good job of this:

The Long-Term:  Dan Mullen

Here’s the Mississippi State advanced statistical profile. From 2014-2017, Butch Jones went 29-20 at Tennessee. Over the same span, Dan Mullen is 32-16 at Mississippi State. In those four years Jones has an average S&P+ percentile performance rating of 61.9% (which does not include data from the loss at Missouri). Mullen’s S&P+ percentile performance average is 69.2% (which does not include data from the loss to Alabama). Using this metric, the Vols were actually better play-for-play relative to expectation in 2014 (69%) and 2015 (70.3%) than 2016 (65.9%).

With percentile performance, the top team isn’t at 99% every week. No one is that perfect. Right now Alabama is at an 87.2% average for the season (90+% in every game but Florida State (80%), Texas A&M (68%), and LSU (68%); Mississippi State will join that list). But Dan Mullen has done a good job getting more from his teams on every play, and this has been true over a number of years.

At Mississippi State, there have been times the Bulldogs have simply been over-matched. We saw that with Auburn and Georgia this year (win expectancy: 0%). And yes, they weren’t sharp against UMass (58% percentile performance with 65% win expectancy). But in every other win this season, their win expectancy is either 99 or 100%. Last season they struggled in going 6-7, losing a game to South Alabama they should have won and beating Miami (OH) in a bowl game they should have lost.

2015 is a good example of the Mulllen resume: four losses to the four most talented teams on their schedule (LSU, Texas A&M, Alabama, Ole Miss). But at a decided talent disadvantage, the Bulldogs played well relative to expectation, including a 76% percentile performance in a two point loss to LSU. And in eight of their nine wins, they performed at 80+%.

In 2014, the year Mullen took them to number one, the Bulldogs took full advantage in their 9-0 start: other than a 65% percentile performance in a 14 point win over Kentucky, MSU scored between 82-98% every Saturday. They still were above 50% at 61% in the loss to Alabama, then hit 99% in beating Vanderbilt the next week. They fell off in the Egg Bowl and the Orange Bowl, but still, the Bulldogs earned every bit of the success they found in 2014.

All of this to say:  Dan Mullen’s teams have consistently been better play-for-play than what Butch Jones has done at Tennessee or any point in his career. Other than last year’s loss to South Alabama, when they get beat it’s largely because the other team is better. But when they win – and Mullen has won a lot for Starkville – those wins are earned on every snap. The Bulldogs haven’t been lucky. They’ve simply been good relative to expectation. Ask Vegas:  in nine years Mullen has only lost as a favorite seven times, three of those as a favorite of three points or less.

In the current full S&P+ ratings, Mississippi State is 18th nationally and the highest-rated 7-3 team in the nation. They’ve put a better product on the field every snap than Washington State (21st), Virginia Tech (24th), Memphis (30th), West Virginia (33rd), and Michigan State (39th), among others. They have the same record as Kentucky, but the Wildcats are 76th in S&P+. This system knows.

In 2015 the Bulldogs finished 13th in S&P+, the strongest 9-4 team in the nation (the Vols were second at 20th overall). In 2014 they finished ninth overall. His teams tend not to get rewarded in the final AP poll because they play in the SEC West with a handful of losses to teams significantly more talented than them. But even in those games, MSU’s performance has often been noteworthy. And in the games they do win, they have done a much better job taking advantage on every snap than what we’ve seen in Knoxville the last five years.

This is the whole question with Mullen:  will Tennessee make the difference? Can you make up the talent gap in Knoxville to compete not so much with Alabama right now, but Florida and Georgia? Does Mullen believe moving from Starkville to Knoxville significantly raises the ceiling? What does getting the most out of a Tennessee team look like?

If he believes Tennessee will make the difference, I believe he can make the difference for Tennessee.

The Short-Term: Scott Frost

Small sample size, but if you want to see what taking full advantage on every snap looks like, it’s Central Florida this year.

This guy isn’t the mid-major flavor of the month. His team is 8-0 with an average percentile performance of 88% (better than Bama). Their win expectancy has been 93-100% every week. They beat Mike Norvell and Memphis 40-13. Against Chad Morris and SMU the score was only 31-24, but they dominated statistically and still had a 78% percentile performance, and that’s their worst of the season.

It’s only eight games on top of the 13 last year where he moved Central Florida from 0-12 to bowl eligibility. But Scott Frost does not mess around.

They won at Navy 31-21 earlier this year; the Midshipmen are pesky and that was a solid road win. In the postgame, Frost was asked if he enjoyed seeing how his team reacted in a tight game:

“Heck no. I lost a year off my life tonight,” Frost said Saturday after the Knights’ 31-21 victory over Navy. “You need close games because you need to see how your kids experience those situations, but they’re not fun. It was stressful.”

This is a game they won by 10, on the road.

First of all, a coach who says, “Heck no,” will do great at Tennessee. Second of all, this quote is a great example of why Frost gets it, and why any team would be fortunate to get Frost:  every snap matters. You coach to get the most out of all of them. Butch Jones coached to get enough to give his team a chance to win at the end; sometimes they did, sometimes they didn’t. The best coaches don’t leave it up to the last play because they start trying to beat you on the first play and don’t stop until the game is over.

Wins and losses will tell you how to rank them. But if you’re looking for how to rate them – and if you’re looking for effectiveness play-for-play – S&P+ is the more revealing tool. Right now, the only teams doing that better than Scott Frost and Central Florida are Ohio State, Alabama, Washington, and undefeated Wisconsin. (Again, how did you perform relative to expectation? The Badgers haven’t had the opportunity to get a signature win yet, but play-for-play they’ve done exactly what a good team should have done against their schedule to date). S&P+ has Central Florida fifth in their ratings overall.

If you’re looking for a larger sample size, what Dan Mullen has done at Mississippi State also fits the bill. Mullen may also be a longer-term answer for Tennessee, if Frost has dreams of the NFL. Teams looking for new coaches often make pendulum swing hires. The most important way to do that in moving on from Butch Jones is to look at more than just wins, losses, and especially close games. Who’s getting the most out of his team every play, every week, relative to expectation? Dan Mullen or Scott Frost would be a win in that department, and either would be a win for Tennessee.

What can the Vols do better?

 

Basketball season tips off tonight: the Vols host Presbyterian at 7 PM ET (available online via SEC Network+). Tennessee beat this team by 40 last year; Presbyterian enters the season 341 out of 351 in Ken Pomeroy’s ratings. It should serve (along with hosting High Point on Tuesday) as a soft opening before the Battle 4 Atlantis over Thanksgiving.

We shouldn’t learn a lot before then, but a few things stand out as opportunities for significant improvement from last year. If the Vols are going to play their way onto the bubble in hopes of finishing on the dance floor, they’ll have to be better in three critical areas:

1. Shoot the ball better. 

Rocket science, I know. But this is more than the Cuonzo Martin school of, “We didn’t make shots.” The best way for Tennessee to shoot it better is to get better shots.

We covered this at the old site late last season:  the Vols were 13-1 when they had 16+ assists, 3-15 when they had 15 or less. Overall the Vols shot 42.2% from the floor last season (289th nationally), and just 40.7% in conference play (12th in the SEC). When the offense was humming the Vols shared the ball and created good looks, often for Robert Hubbs or Grant Williams. But the Vols struggled to create their own shots beyond Hubbs, leading to tough twos for guys like Lamonte Turner (35.5% from the floor) and Jordan Bowden (37.1%).

Tennessee also struggled to win ugly, a quality any bubble team needs. The Vols were 13-2 when shooting 42% or better from the floor, including strong performances in losses at North Carolina and at Florida.  But under 42%, the Vols were only 3-14. Tennessee did face the nation’s third most difficult schedule in opponent defensive rating by KenPom, but an improved SEC and Rick Barnes’ choice to schedule for the tournament shouldn’t make things tremendously easier this time around.

I don’t know if we can count on the newcomers to make a huge difference here. James Daniel did put in 27.1 points per game for Howard, but was more of a volume scorer averaging 38.8% from the floor on 19.4 shots per game. Better shooting is still more likely to come from better offense than guys naturally evolving into better jump shooters. This means point guard play, starting with Jordan Bone, will be critical for the Vols this season.

2. …but maybe trying a few more threes wouldn’t hurt.

Last season the Vols were 290th nationally in three pointers attempted and 13th in SEC play. The percentages made sense:  32.6% from the arc overall and 31.8% in league play weren’t inspiring anyone to jack it up more.

Some of the offense’s best performances came with the fewest three point attempts of the season. Against Kentucky the Vols were 5-of-10 from the arc, the fewest attempts of the year. Tennessee also beat Georgia Tech, Kansas State, and Vanderbilt while attempting 15 threes or less. UT’s best three point shooter last year was…Admiral Schofield at 38.9%. There still may not be a great three-point shooter on this roster.

However, the game is evolving to the arc more and more:  last year only two teams earned an at-large bid while taking less than 600 three pointers (Seton Hall and Miami). The Vols took 579. Here again, the solution is better offense:  creating better opportunities for a guy like Grant Williams inside can lead to more open looks for a number of players on the perimeter. In an exhibition win at Clemson, the Vols were 9-of-24 (37.5%) from the arc. Twenty-four attempts would have been the sixth-most taken in all of last season. Of particular note:  in two exhibition games, Grant Williams is 2-of-4 from the arc and Admiral Schofield is 3-of-7. Williams averaged one three attempt per game last year, Schofield 1.7. If those two put that in their game regularly and effectively, Tennessee’s entire offensive dynamic will change.

3. Keep the other team off the offensive glass

What comes of playing a bunch of guys under 6’8″: the Vols were 13th in the SEC in defensive rebounding. In the close losses that were most costly last season – the ones that could have made the biggest difference in Tennessee’s bubble presence – this was the number one issue:

  • North Carolina had a 46.3% offensive rebounding percentage and 19 total offensive rebounds, narrowly escaping the Vols in Chapel Hill.
  • Mississippi State grabbed 34% of their misses in a 64-59 victory in Starkville, breaking Tennessee’s four-game winning streak on February 4.
  • One week later Georgia got 29 from J.J. Frazier, but also grabbed 34.6% of their misses in beating the Vols by one point in Knoxville. This loss knocked Tennessee out of the Bracket Matrix field.

You can what-if yourself to death, but if the Vols turn those three losses by a combined eight points into wins, Tennessee is 19-13 with a projected RPI of 52 (via RPI Wizard) going to the SEC Tournament, looking to play their way into the NCAA Tournament. Giving up such a high percentage of offensive rebounds was particularly costly.

Again, only so much you can do with so little height. John Fulkerson’s return will help here, as will the arrival of Derrick Walker to join Grant Williams and Kyle Alexander inside. Tennessee is still going to be smaller than the opposition more often than not – we’ll come back to this point in a major way against Purdue in 12 days – but has to avoid annihilation on the offensive glass to turn some of these close losses into close wins.

The Vols don’t have to excel in any of these areas to be a good team; there are plenty of things Tennessee did well last season (getting to the free throw line, blocking shots while defending without fouling, staying in the black in assist-to-turnover ratio). But these are the greatest areas for improvement for Rick Barnes’ squad, and could make the difference between the NIT and the NCAA Tournament.

The fun starts tonight.

The New Hierarchy in the SEC East

Fifteen years ago, it was easy to talk yourself into the Vols taking over the SEC East. Tennessee won the division in 2001, beating Steve Spurrier on his way to the NFL. A heartbreaking loss in Atlanta only fueled expectations for 2002, with the Vols ranked fifth in the preseason AP poll. It’s hard to believe now, but the SEC East was at the peak of its powers: the Gators were sixth, the Dawgs eighth in the initial poll. Even South Carolina snuck in at #22. Only Nick Saban’s LSU squad was ranked (#14) from the SEC West.

And yet, it’s hard for me to remember more preseason optimism in Knoxville. Riding high on the program’s success from 1995-2001, dominance was the next step and Spurrier was out of the way. Mark Richt and Georgia had upset the Vols the year before, but that loss ultimately didn’t cost Tennessee; it was still easy enough to fall back on UT’s 90’s dominance over the Dawgs. Winning in Gainesville chased away the final monkeys on Phillip Fulmer’s back, and no one believed Ron Zook would wrangle them back in place. When his Gators were blown out by Miami before coming to Knoxville, Tennessee smelled blood. 2002 was my last year in the student section and we were thinking blowout, a dream rarely available to Vol fans in this rivalry.

Instead, one of the strangest nightmares I’ve ever seen in Neyland: an absolute downpour led to five Tennessee fumbles in the last five minutes of the first half, turning a scoreless slugfest into a 24-0 Gator lead. The Vols fell 30-13, then lost 18-13 in Athens with Casey Clausen out due to injury.

While Tennessee stumbled to an 8-5 season, Georgia pounced. The Dawgs lost to Florida as well, but it would be their only blemish in a 13-1 SEC Championship campaign, Georgia’s first since 1982. It was also the first time someone other than Tennessee or Florida won the SEC East, setting the stage for a time of parity:  a three-way tie in 2003, the Vols back on top in 2004, and Georgia back in Atlanta in 2005.

By 2006 Urban Meyer had Florida back to being Florida, and the window got a lot smaller for both Tennessee and Georgia. In the last 10 years the Vols have been to Atlanta once (2007), and Georgia only twice:  merely an appetizer for LSU in 2011, then the nearest of misses against Alabama in 2012. While the Vols walked in the wilderness with three different coaches, Richt’s Georgia programs saw teams outside the Top 10 slide past them to Atlanta in 2010, 2014, and 2015.

Historically, this is Florida’s division: a dozen titles in 25 years, while Tennessee and Georgia had just five each coming into this season. As such, the Vols and Dawgs must take full advantage when the Gators aren’t at full strength. It took the best of Tennessee’s best to win three titles in five years at the end of Spurrier’s tenure. Georgia never won the division when the OBC was in Gainesville, and only went to Atlanta in Urban Meyer’s first year on those same sidelines.

When Florida was in transition 15 years ago, Mark Richt kept Tennessee from taking over. When the Gators started slipping again at the end of Will Muschamp’s tenure, another golden opportunity presented itself. But this time, Tennessee kept Tennessee from taking over. The Vols should be riding a four game winning streak over Florida and two straight SEC East titles. Instead, Tennessee got just one win over the Gators, failed to capitalize on two others over Georgia, and still hasn’t seen the SEC Championship Game since 2007.

The good news:  Florida is still vulnerable. The bad news:  Georgia called dibs.

Kirby Smart’s team is detonating the argument for the SEC being a mass of 8-4 behind Alabama. The Dawgs are 9-0 and yet to be threatened in the SEC. They buried what appears to be a good Mississippi State team 31-3 and, most importantly, beat Tennessee and Florida by a combined 83-7. They will graduate Nick Chubb, Sony Michel, and a good chunk of their starting defense. But they currently boast the nation’s fifth-best recruiting class, including 11 four-or-five-star commits for a blue chip ratio of 61%. Once-solid recruiting classes from the Vols and Gators are up in the air as their coaching situations resolve themselves.

Florida is down, but they tend not to stay there forever. Butch Jones missed his chance to take advantage in 2015 and 2016. Now all signs point to the Vols making a change at the end of 2017, embracing the speed bumps of transition in hopes of greater progress down the road. But Georgia is firmly in the driver’s seat, both in the division and, right now, in all of college football atop the playoff poll. It’s a small sample size for Kirby Smart, but an impeccable one in year two. If/when the Vols make a change, they should have the opportunity to make a better hire than in January 2010 or December 2012. But with Georgia dominating and the Gators looking to level up at the same time, it’s also a dangerous time for Tennessee. The opportunity to get it right is greater, but so too are the risks if the Vols get it wrong.

 

 

 

Meanwhile: Basketball!

 

If your patience is wearing thin with the present and future of Tennessee football, may I suggest turning some of your attention to Rick Barnes’ squad? Because this year’s team will have the opportunity to serve as more than just a distraction.

The last three years featured low expectations quickly rising to heights they could not sustain:

  • 2015: Started 12-5 (4-1), finished 16-16 (7-11)
  • 2016: Started 12-12 (5-6), finished 15-19 (6-12)
  • 2017: Started 14-10 (6-5), finished 16-16 (8-10)

Donnie Tyndall’s squad was just starting to make national noise by winning eight-of-nine between December 6 and January 20, but close wins became close losses became blowouts. Rick Barnes’ first team came from 21 down to beat Kentucky and beat Bruce Pearl by 26 on the first two Tuesdays of February to put the NIT on the horizon, but an injury to Kevin Punter ended the threat. And last year the Vols were in the Bracket Matrix field after a February 8 win over Ole Miss, but an injury to Robert Hubbs was no help in dropping five of the next six. As such, the last three years have threatened to surprise but all ended in the SEC Tournament. This is Tennessee’s longest drought without making the NCAA Tournament or the NIT since 1993-95.

The latter is a good expectation for this year’s team, which lost Hubbs and fan-favorite Lew Evans to graduation and Shembari Phillips and Kwe Parker to transfer. But these Vols will showcase legitimate depth for the first time under Rick Barnes:

  • Grant Williams, Admiral Schofield, Lamonte Turner, Jordan Bowden, Jordan Bone, and Kyle Alexander all return.
  • John Fulkerson is back from a gruesome elbow injury which cost him two-thirds of last year, and Jalen Johnson is active following a redshirt season.
  • The Vols added junior college transfer Chris Darrington and graduate transfer James Daniel to the backcourt.
  • Freshmen Derrick Walker and Zach Kent give depth in the post, and 6’5″ Yves Pons came from France to dunk on people.

I wouldn’t expect the Vols to actually go 13-deep, but it will be interesting to see how the rotation shapes up early (and how quickly it can be established). Beyond Grant Williams and probably Admiral Schofield, it’s anyone’s guess where a majority of Tennessee’s productivity will come from. But this is the best group of options the Vols have had since that 2014 tournament run. We’ll begin to see how they look in an exhibition against Carson-Newman at 7:00 PM tonight.

Never mind that whole picked 13th by the SEC media thing. Tennessee starts the year 43rd in Ken Pomeroy’s ratings, sixth in the SEC. While I haven’t seen the Vols show up in any bracketologies yet, if you made one strictly using KenPom Tennessee would be in the field, narrowly avoiding Dayton. And if you enjoyed the Cuonzo Martin era, rejoice:  I would expect this is the kind of season we’re in for.

After three years of having to wait until January to even think about the bubble, this season you can have those conversations right away. Whether the Vols ultimately get on the dance floor or not, the larger point is this:  if you anticipate being that close, every single one of these games will matter. And this year it won’t be something we realized later, but a truth from the opening tip.

That’s next Friday against Presbyterian (341 out of 351 in KenPom), followed by a visit from High Point on November 14. Then opportunity knocks hard in Nassau:  the Vols get #20 Purdue in the Battle 4 Atlantis opener. A loss still helps your RPI and probably gets you a date with Western Kentucky. But a win not only puts Purdue in your bank account, it probably gets you a shot at #6 Villanova (#3 Arizona is on the other side of the bracket).

While we’re waiting for meaningful outcomes in football again, these games will matter right away. And the end result should be better than we’ve seen the last three seasons. Life on the bubble is stressful, but every night matters. I’m looking forward to having that dynamic back.