In this early edition of the podcast, Will, Brad, and I search through the wreckage of the Alabama game, discuss Jarrett Guarantano’s post-game promise to make the next 35 days magical, talk about longevity in the Top 25 as the appropriate measure of national relevance, and wonder why there wasn’t more scrutiny about the Larry Scott hire when it happened.
Tennessee’s five-game forecast: mostly gloomy
Half the league takes the weekend off, Tennessee gets rolled as expected, Southern Miss wins a thriller, Missouri flirts with 70 points again, and LSU continues to improve. What’s it all mean for the Vols the rest of the way?
Explanations are below, but here’s the updated chart for this week:
The Vols after Alabama
The Vols lost to Alabama 45-7, barely missing on a historical spread of 37 points, and got outgained 604 yards to 108. The first downs race was 35-7. Tennessee would have barely won with a score of 49-45 if you gave Tennessee seven points for a first down and Alabama seven points for a touchdown. The offense looked inept once again, and although it didn’t feel like the defense was terrible, it still gave up 600 yards and 45 points.
And yet, I don’t know that any of that tells us anything that we didn’t already know. Alabama just magnified the team’s warts and shined a national spotlight on them. It’s embarrassing, but it’s not like it was a well-kept secret or anything.
So, I’m actually not feeling any worse about the Vols themselves after this weekend. There may actually be some raw material to work with the rest of the way . . . but I’m not ready to go anywhere in that direction yet, either. So, status quo this week.
The Vols’ future opponents
10/28/17: Kentucky (5-2, 2-2 SEC, NR)
- W1: Beat Southern Miss, 24-17.
- W2: Best E Kentucky, 27-16.
- W3: Beat South Carolina, 23-13.
- W4: Lost to #20 Florida, 28-27.
- W5: Beat E Michigan, 24-20.
- W6: Beat Missouri, 40-34.
- W7: Bye
- W8: Lost to Mississippi State, 45-7.
- W9: #25 Tennessee
- W10: Ole Miss
- W11: At Vanderbilt
- W12: At #15 Georgia
- W13: #17 Lousiville
Expectations for a Vols win: Kentucky’s offense crossed midfield only three times. Still, I’m keeping this one at 50/50.
| PREDICTIONS – KENTUCKY | ||||||||||||
| W1 | W2 | W3 | W4 | W5 | W6 | W7 | W8 | W9 | W10 | W11 | W12 | W13 |
| 65 | 65 | 70 | 65 | 55 | 50 | 50 | 50 | 50 | ||||
11/4/17: Southern Miss (5-2, 3-1 C-USA, NR)
- W1: Lost to Kentucky, 24-17.
- W2: Beat Southern, 45-0.
- W3: Beat UL Monroe, 28-17.
- W4: Bye
- W5: Lost to North Texas, 43-28.
- W6: Beat UTSA, 31-29.
- W7: Beat UTEP, 24-0.
- W8: Beat LA Tech, 34-27 in double overtime.
- W9: UAB
- W10: At #25 Tennessee
- W11: At Rice
- W12: Charlotte
- W13: At Marshall
Expectations for a Vols win: Southern Miss had to stage a comeback to get the win against LA Tech. They didn’t make it 27-19 until there was 1:23 left, and then they needed to recover an onside kick, score again, and get a two-point conversion to get it to overtime. The craziness didn’t stop there, as both teams threw an interception on their respective possessions in the first overtime. Credit to Southern Miss for all of that and for finally getting over the top in the second overtime to pull off the dramatic win. All of that said, I’m keeping this one at 50/50.
| PREDICTIONS – SOUTHERN MISS | ||||||||||||
| W1 | W2 | W3 | W4 | W5 | W6 | W7 | W8 | W9 | W10 | W11 | W12 | W13 |
| 90 | 85 | 80 | 80 | 70 | 55 | 55 | 50 | 50 | ||||
11/11/17: Missouri (2-5, 0-4 SEC, NR)
- W1: Beat Missouri State 72-43.
- W2: Lost to South Carolina, 31-13.
- W3: Lost to Purdue, 35-3.
- W4: Lost to #15 Auburn, 51-14.
- W5: Bye
- W6: Lost to Kentucky, 40-34.
- W7: Lost to #4 Georgia, 53-28.
- W8: Beat Idaho, 68-21.
- W9: At UConn
- W10: #22 Florida
- W11: #25 Tennessee
- W12: At Vanderbilt
- W13: At Arkansas
Expectations for a Vols win: Oh, good. Missouri is finding itself just in time. Or maybe they just played actual potatoes this weekend. I don’t know. Regardless, they can put up points. Sometimes. Other times not. So, I’m giving them 50 for putting up a lot of points sometimes and taking away 50 for sometimes not being very good at all.
| PREDICTIONS – MISSOURI | ||||||||||||
| W1 | W2 | W3 | W4 | W5 | W6 | W7 | W8 | W9 | W10 | W11 | W12 | W13 |
| 70 | 65 | 70 | 70 | 70 | 50 | 50 | 50 | 50 | ||||
11/18/17: LSU (6-2, 3-1 SEC, #24)
- W1: Beat BYU, 27-0.
- W2: Beat Chattanooga, 45-10.
- W3: Lost to Mississippi State, 37-7.
- W4: Beat Syracuse, 35-26.
- W5: Lost at home, during Homecoming, to Troy, 24-21.
- W6: Beat #21 Florida, 17-16.
- W7: Beat #10 Auburn, 27-23.
- W8: Beat Ole Miss, 40-24.
- W9: Bye
- W10: At #1 Alabama
- W11: Arkansas
- W12: At #25 Tennessee
- W13: Texas A&M
Expectations for a Vols win: Oh, good. LSU is rolling again, too. Fantastic. Derrius Guice ran for 276 yards himself. I moved this to 30% last week, and I’m moving it even further this week, to 25%.
| PREDICTIONS – LSU | ||||||||||||
| W1 | W2 | W3 | W4 | W5 | W6 | W7 | W8 | W9 | W10 | W11 | W12 | W13 |
| 25 | 25 | 25 | 45 | 45 | 50 | 50 | 30 | 25 | ||||
11/25/17: Vanderbilt (3-4, 0-4 SEC, NR)
- W1: Beat MTSU, 28-6.
- W2: Beat Alabama A&M, 42-0.
- W3: Beat #19 Kansas State, 14-7.
- W4: Lost to #1 Alabama, 59-0.
- W5: Lost to #21 Florida, 38-24.
- W6: Lost to #5 Georgia, 45-14.
- W7: Lost to Ole Miss, 57-35.
- W8: Bye
- W9: At South Carolina
- W10: W Kentucky
- W11: Kentucky
- W12: Missouri
- W13: At #25 Tennessee
Expectations for a Vols win: They didn’t play this week, so I’m keeping this a 50/50 game.
| PREDICTIONS – VANDERBILT | ||||||||||||
| W1 | W2 | W3 | W4 | W5 | W6 | W7 | W8 | W9 | W10 | W11 | W12 | W13 |
| 72 | 72 | 65 | 55 | 55 | 50 | 50 | 50 | 50 | ||||
All of that puts me at 5.25 wins. Use this form to get your own calculation:
The Vols’ past opponents
Georgia Tech (4-2, 3-1 ACC, RV)
- W1: Lost to Tennessee 42-41 in double overtime.
- W2: Beat Jacksonville State, 37-10.
- W3: At UCF (canceled)
- W4: Beat Pitt, 35-17.
- W5: Beat North Carolina, 33-7.
- W6: Bye
- W7: Lost to #11 Miami, 25-24.
- W8: Beat Wake Forest, 38-24.
- W9: At Clemson
- W10: At Virginia
- W11: Virginia Tech
- W12: At Duke
- W13: Georgia
The Yellow Jackets are still one play and one point away from being undefeated. That Clemson game this week could be entertaining.
Indiana State (0-7, 0-4 MVFC, NR)
- W1: Lost to E Illinois, 22-20.
- W2: Lost to Tennessee, 42-7.
- W3: Lost to Liberty, 42-41 on a blocked 23-yard field goal attempt as time expired.
- W4: Bye
- W5: Lost to Illinois State, 24-13.
- W6: Lost to North Dakota State, 52-0.
- W7: Lost to South Dakota, 56-6.
- W8: Lost to S Illinois, 45-24.
- W9: At Missouri State
- W10: Youngstown State
- W11: W Illinois
- W12: At Northern Iowa
Florida (3-3, 3-2 SEC, NR)
- W1: Lost to #11 Michigan, 33-17.
- W2: Canceled game with N Colorado.
- W3: Beat #25 Tennessee, 26-20.
- W4: Beat Kentucky, 28-27.
- W5: Beat Vanderbilt, 38-24.
- W6: Lost to LSU, 17-16 on a missed extra point due to a bad snap and hold.
- W7: Lost to Texas A&M, 19-17.
- W8: Bye
- W9: vs Georgia
- W10: At Missouri
- W11: At South Carolina
- W12: UAB
- W13: Florida State
UMass (1-6, 0-0 IND, NR)
- W1: Lost to Hawaii, 38-35.
- W2: Lost to C. Carolina, 38-28.
- W3: Lost to Old Dominion, 17-7.
- W4: Lost to Temple, 29-21.
- W5: Lost to Tennessee, 17-13.
- W6: Lost to Ohio, 58-50.
- W7: Bye
- W8: At USF (canceled)
- W9: Beat Ga Southern, 55-20.
- W10: Appalachian State
- W11: At Mississippi State
- W12: Maine
- W13: At BYU
Georgia (7-0, 4-0 SEC, #3)
- W1: Beat Appalachian State, 31-10. QB Jacob Eason went down, but freshman Jake Fromm looked good and took care of business.
- W2: Beat #24 Notre Dame, 20-19.
- W3: Beat Samford, 42-14.
- W4: Easily handled #17 Mississippi State, 31-3.
- W5: Demoralized Tennessee, 41-0.
- W6: Beat Vanderbilt, 45-14.
- W7: Beat Missouri, 53-28.
- W8: Bye
- W9: vs. #22 Florida
- W10: South Carolina
- W11: At #13 Auburn
- W12: Kentucky
- W13: At Georgia Tech
South Carolina (5-2, 3-2 SEC, RV)
- W1: Beat NC State, 35-28.
- W2: Beat Missouri, 31-13.
- W3: Lost to Kentucky, 23-13.
- W4: Beat LA Tech, 17-16.
- W5: Lost to Texas A&M, 24-17.
- W6: Beat Arkansas, 48-22.
- W7: Beat Tennessee, 15-9.
- W8: Bye
- W9: Vanderbilt
- W10: At #15 Georgia
- W11: #22 Florida
- W12: Wofford
- W13: #3 Clemson
Alabama (8-0, 5-0 SEC, #1)
- W1: Beat #3 Florida State, 24-7.
- W2: Beat Fresno State, 41-10.
- W3: Beat Colorado State, 41-23.
- W4: Beat Vanderbilt, 59-0.
- W5: Beat Ole Miss, 66-3.
- W6: Beat Texas A&M, 27-19.
- W7: Beat Arkansas, 41-9.
- W8: Beat Tennessee, 45-7.
- W9: Bye
- W10: #12 LSU
- W11: At Mississippi State
- W12: Mercer
- W13: At #13 Auburn
Chuckiepoo wins Week 8 of the Gameday on Rocky Top Pick ‘Em Contest
Congratulations to chuckiepoo, who went a stellar 19-1 and finished first in this week’s Gameday on Rocky Top Pick ‘Em Pool with 209 confidence points. He wins a Gameday on Rocky Top t-shirt from our custom tee store, Web Community Tees.
Chuckiepoo, watch for a message from me on how to get your tee.
Knottfair remains in the lead in the overall standings for now, but birdjam and joeb_1 are tied for second and behind by only 11 confidence points.
Here are the full results for this week:.
| Rank | Selection Name | W-L | Pts | Tie Breaker Game (7-45) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | chuckiepoo | 19-1 | 209 | 13-49 |
| 2 | rockhopper78 | 18-2 | 205 | 9-44** |
| 2 | jfarrar90 | 18-2 | 205 | 13-41 |
| 4 | Displaced_Vol_Fan | 17-3 | 204 | 3-45** |
| 4 | boro wvvol | 18-2 | 204 | 3-35 |
| 4 | jeremy.waldroop | 18-2 | 204 | 15-58 |
| 7 | Knottfair | 18-2 | 203 | 9-42** |
| 7 | Volfan2002 | 17-3 | 203 | 10-49 |
| 7 | PrideofTheSouthlandFan | 18-2 | 203 | 3-38 |
| 7 | BZACHARY | 17-3 | 203 | 0-0 |
| 11 | birdjam | 18-2 | 202 | 6-45** |
| 11 | rsbrooks25 | 17-3 | 202 | 6-54 |
| 11 | Anaconda | 17-3 | 202 | 16-52 |
| 14 | GeorgeMonkey | 17-3 | 201 | 7-42** |
| 14 | Bulldog 85 | 17-3 | 201 | 9-50 |
| 14 | PAVolFan | 18-2 | 201 | 12-60 |
| 14 | Raven17 | 18-2 | 201 | 56-6 |
| 18 | Phonies | 17-3 | 200 | 10-48 |
| 19 | Jahiegel | 17-3 | 199 | 9-41** |
| 19 | joeb_1 | 17-3 | 199 | 12-47 |
| 21 | ga26engr | 19-1 | 198 | 17-58 |
| 22 | ChuckieTVol | 17-3 | 197 | 6-49** |
| 22 | LuckyGuess | 16-4 | 197 | 13-36 |
| 22 | ltvol99 | 18-2 | 197 | 7-49 |
| 22 | ThePowerT | 16-4 | 197 | 13-34 |
| 22 | spartans100 | 17-3 | 197 | 17-48 |
| 22 | mmb61 | 18-2 | 197 | 10-56 |
| 28 | mariettavol | 18-2 | 196 | 11-39** |
| 28 | vols95 | 18-2 | 196 | 6-49 |
| 30 | C_hawkfan | 17-3 | 195 | 9-42** |
| 30 | UNDirish60 | 17-3 | 195 | 13-45 |
| 30 | tpi | 18-2 | 195 | 0-0 |
| 33 | edgarmsmith | 17-3 | 194 | 10-45 |
| 34 | bking | 17-3 | 193 | 16-37** |
| 34 | Jaywine | 19-1 | 193 | 0-42 |
| 36 | VandyVol | 16-4 | 192 | 7-48 |
| 37 | HUTCH | 18-2 | 191 | 0-56** |
| 37 | alanmar | 17-3 | 191 | 0-0 |
| 39 | mmmjtx | 18-2 | 189 | 0-42 |
| 40 | Harley | 18-2 | 188 | 17-41 |
| 41 | BlountVols | 17-3 | 186 | 9-36 |
| 42 | Joel @ GRT | 17-3 | 183 | 7-39 |
| 43 | the-albatross | 16-4 | 182 | 17-48 |
| 44 | Rossboro | 17-3 | 180 | 0-45 |
| 45 | DinnerJacket | 15-5 | 179 | 10-48 |
| 46 | ddayvolsfan | 17-3 | 176 | 3-52** |
| 46 | IBleedVolOrange | 18-2 | 176 | 9-54 |
| 46 | Jrstep | 16-4 | 176 | 0-121 |
| 49 | waltsspac | 18-2 | 175 | 0-46** |
| 49 | tdrb42 | 16-4 | 175 | 0-45 |
| 49 | ctull | 16-4 | 175 | 6-34 |
| 52 | crafdog | 17-3 | 169 | 17-37 |
| 53 | Timbuktu126 | 13-7 | 167 | 7-14 |
| 54 | Drew | 16-4 | 166 | 0-0 |
| 55 | Gman15 | 13-7 | 164 | 13-41 |
| 56 | patmd | 16-4 | 163 | 17-34 |
| 57 | daetilus | 15-5 | 162 | 10-41 |
| 58 | jobliner | 16-4 | 161 | 10-41** |
| 58 | CajunVol | 15-5 | 161 | 0-0 |
| 58 | 1hoss2 | 14-6 | 161 | 0-0 |
| 61 | TNann | 17-3 | 155 | 3-52 |
| 62 | RandyH112 | 16-4 | 153 | 0-70 |
| 63 | ed75 | 16-4 | 149 | 3-56 |
| 64 | Dylan pickle | 14-6 | 147 | 0-54 |
| 65 | Techboy | 15-5 | 141 | 0-0 |
| 66 | PensacolaVolFan | 13-7 | 130 | 6-42 |
| 67 | Sam | 18-Feb | 37 | 0-0 |
| 68 | rollervol | 17-Mar | 36 | 6-45 |
| 69 | RichVols | 0-20 | 35 | 0-0** |
| 69 | Will Shelton | 0-20 | 35 | - |
| 69 | aquasox | 0-20 | 35 | - |
| 69 | jstorie1 | 0-20 | 35 | - |
| 69 | TennVol95 in 3D! | 0-20 | 35 | - |
| 69 | mobilevol | 0-20 | 35 | - |
| 69 | sncdaisy | 0-20 | 35 | - |
| 69 | BritishVol | 0-20 | 35 | - |
| 69 | 901Vol | 0-20 | 35 | - |
| 69 | The Alyas Greys | 0-20 | 35 | - |
| 69 | EVOL | 0-20 | 35 | - |
| 69 | dgibbs | 0-20 | 35 | - |
| 69 | CNMcCreary | 0-20 | 35 | - |
| 69 | wreckvol | 0-20 | 35 | - |
| 69 | rockytopinky | 0-20 | 35 | - |
| 69 | OriginalVol1814 | 0-20 | 35 | - |
| 69 | KeepsCornInAJar | 0-20 | 35 | - |
| 69 | PaVol | 0-20 | 35 | - |
| 69 | T dog | 0-20 | 35 | - |
| 69 | kmchugh | 0-20 | 35 | - |
| 69 | waitwhereami | 0-20 | 35 | - |
| 69 | over754ut | 0-20 | 35 | - |
| 69 | wedflatrock | 0-20 | 35 | - |
| 69 | biologydropout | 0-20 | 35 | - |
| 69 | utkjmitch | 0-20 | 35 | - |
| 69 | SouthernDCist | 0-20 | 35 | - |
| 69 | rudydog | 0-20 | 35 | - |
| 69 | MeytonPanning | 0-20 | 35 | - |
| 69 | DCVFL | 0-20 | 35 | - |
| 69 | VillaVol | 0-20 | 35 | - |
| 69 | Volboy | 0-20 | 35 | - |
| 69 | memphispete | 0-20 | 35 | - |
And here are the current overall standings after Week 8:
| Rank | Selection Name | W-L | Pts |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Knottfair | 129-31 | 1471 |
| 2 | birdjam | 129-31 | 1460 |
| 2 | joeb_1 | 125-35 | 1460 |
| 4 | Volfan2002 | 128-32 | 1454 |
| 5 | jfarrar90 | 128-32 | 1452 |
| 5 | Phonies | 130-30 | 1452 |
| 7 | ChuckieTVol | 127-33 | 1448 |
| 7 | UNDirish60 | 128-32 | 1448 |
| 9 | Displaced_Vol_Fan | 121-39 | 1440 |
| 10 | C_hawkfan | 127-33 | 1438 |
| 10 | spartans100 | 131-29 | 1438 |
| 12 | GeorgeMonkey | 123-37 | 1436 |
| 13 | chuckiepoo | 125-35 | 1435 |
| 14 | PAVolFan | 126-34 | 1431 |
| 15 | mmmjtx | 129-31 | 1426 |
| 16 | PrideofTheSouthlandFan | 128-32 | 1424 |
| 17 | mariettavol | 126-34 | 1418 |
| 18 | Jahiegel | 125-35 | 1417 |
| 19 | Joel @ GRT | 128-32 | 1414 |
| 20 | BZACHARY | 118-42 | 1398 |
| 21 | rsbrooks25 | 127-33 | 1383 |
| 22 | ThePowerT | 116-44 | 1382 |
| 22 | waltsspac | 127-33 | 1382 |
| 22 | Raven17 | 119-41 | 1382 |
| 25 | mmb61 | 122-38 | 1379 |
| 26 | Anaconda | 108-52 | 1368 |
| 27 | edgarmsmith | 122-38 | 1361 |
| 28 | tpi | 127-33 | 1354 |
| 29 | CajunVol | 123-37 | 1351 |
| 30 | vols95 | 114-46 | 1350 |
| 31 | DinnerJacket | 118-42 | 1348 |
| 32 | alanmar | 124-36 | 1335 |
| 33 | ctull | 119-41 | 1328 |
| 34 | ltvol99 | 114-46 | 1302 |
| 35 | LuckyGuess | 111-49 | 1297 |
| 36 | OriginalVol1814 | 107-53 | 1289 |
| 37 | Gman15 | 115-45 | 1282 |
| 38 | rockhopper78 | 107-53 | 1280 |
| 39 | 1hoss2 | 118-42 | 1266 |
| 40 | Rossboro | 104-56 | 1265 |
| 41 | BlountVols | 106-54 | 1244 |
| 42 | bking | 112-48 | 1235 |
| 43 | tdrb42 | 113-47 | 1233 |
| 44 | boro wvvol | 104-56 | 1230 |
| 45 | jeremy.waldroop | 112-48 | 1229 |
| 46 | ga26engr | 115-45 | 1214 |
| 47 | Sam | 104-56 | 1209 |
| 48 | daetilus | 102-58 | 1202 |
| 49 | TNann | 113-47 | 1175 |
| 50 | VillaVol | 89-71 | 1162 |
| 51 | HUTCH | 106-54 | 1145 |
| 52 | ddayvolsfan | 104-56 | 1144 |
| 53 | crafdog | 109-51 | 1134 |
| 54 | patmd | 107-53 | 1123 |
| 55 | ed75 | 98-62 | 1113 |
| 56 | IBleedVolOrange | 105-55 | 1112 |
| 57 | Jrstep | 100-60 | 1105 |
| 58 | Drew | 88-72 | 1069 |
| 59 | rollervol | 99-61 | 1060 |
| 60 | Bulldog 85 | 94-66 | 1054 |
| 61 | Techboy | 95-65 | 1049 |
| 61 | dgibbs | 77-83 | 1049 |
| 63 | VandyVol | 88-72 | 1043 |
| 64 | RichVols | 80-80 | 1042 |
| 65 | mobilevol | 86-74 | 1018 |
| 65 | utkjmitch | 76-84 | 1018 |
| 67 | Timbuktu126 | 89-71 | 994 |
| 68 | Volboy | 73-87 | 991 |
| 69 | jstorie1 | 72-88 | 974 |
| 70 | Jaywine | 81-79 | 948 |
| 71 | PensacolaVolFan | 93-67 | 943 |
| 72 | TennVol95 in 3D! | 71-89 | 941 |
| 73 | waitwhereami | 61-99 | 936 |
| 74 | wreckvol | 60-100 | 928 |
| 75 | KeepsCornInAJar | 61-99 | 926 |
| 76 | aquasox | 72-88 | 894 |
| 77 | Will Shelton | 52-108 | 891 |
| 78 | biologydropout | 47-113 | 885 |
| 79 | RandyH112 | 85-75 | 882 |
| 80 | Harley | 83-77 | 870 |
| 81 | EVOL | 42-118 | 865 |
| 82 | MeytonPanning | 55-105 | 864 |
| 83 | rudydog | 56-104 | 859 |
| 84 | the-albatross | 73-87 | 838 |
| 85 | Dylan pickle | 77-83 | 810 |
| 86 | kmchugh | 31-129 | 802 |
| 87 | BritishVol | 39-121 | 801 |
| 88 | SouthernDCist | 44-116 | 788 |
| 89 | CNMcCreary | 50-110 | 787 |
| 90 | rockytopinky | 56-104 | 767 |
| 91 | jobliner | 38-122 | 762 |
| 92 | sncdaisy | 40-120 | 753 |
| 93 | over754ut | 29-131 | 731 |
| 94 | DCVFL | 21-139 | 676 |
| 95 | memphispete | 18-142 | 667 |
| 96 | 901Vol | 18-142 | 664 |
| 97 | T dog | 0-160 | 598 |
| 97 | wedflatrock | 0-160 | 598 |
| 99 | The Alyas Greys | 15-145 | 545 |
| 100 | PaVol | 5-155 | 476 |
Gameday on Rocky Top Guessing Game Results: Alabama Crimson Tide edition
Finally, some chaos in the Gameday on Rocky Top Guessing Game, as a thunderbolt robs the field of 10 points (except for one lucky player) and a blue shell creates a three-way tie for first.
The full play-by-play is below.
Top 10 as of the end of last week
| Daetilus | 74 |
| Marietta Vol | 59 |
| Josh Farrar | 56 |
| Harley | 47 |
| Fatso | 44 |
| Sam | 44 |
| Joel Hollingsworth | 42 |
| MitchellK | 41 |
| Dave Strunk | 40 |
| Jayyyy | 39 |
Round 1
Q: Which is greater, Alabama’s rushing yards or Tennessee’s total yards? (5-20 points)
A: Alabama’s rushing yards (5 points) (272 to 108) (Yes, their rushing yards nearly tripled our total yards)
Twelve players get this right and get five points for it.
Mushrooms: Raven17 and Joel Hollingsworth
Bananas: Jayyyy gets both of these.
Blue shells and bolts: None, but the one pending blue shell is still on the move toward the top.
Top 10 after Round 1:
| Daetilus | 74 |
| Marietta Vol | 64 |
| Josh Farrar | 61 |
| Joel Hollingsworth | 52 |
| Sam | 49 |
| Harley | 47 |
| Dave Strunk | 45 |
| Fatso | 44 |
| MitchellK | 41 |
| Raven17 | 41 |
Round 2
Q: When does Tennessee score its next touchdown? (5-30 points)
A: 2nd half (5 points) and 3rd quarter (20 points)
Three players get the safe five points, and one player (Fatso) got the bonus 20 points.
Mushrooms: Sam gets both of these
Bananas: Josh Farrar and MitchellK
Blue shells and bolts: cscott95 draws a thunderbolt, claiming the next question all to himself, and the blue shell continues to move.
Top 10 after Round 2:
| Daetilus | 74 |
| Marietta Vol | 64 |
| Fatso | 64 |
| Sam | 59 |
| Joel Hollingsworth | 57 |
| Josh Farrar | 56 |
| Harley | 47 |
| Raven17 | 46 |
| Dave Strunk | 45 |
| Evan | 39 |
Round 3
Q: What’s the phrase of the day? (10 points)
A: Beat Bama Anyway! (10 points)
Everyone who played would have gotten this right if it weren’t for cscott95’s thunderbolt, but because he did, he’s the only one who gets the 10 points.
Mushrooms: Raven17 and TennVol95.
Bananas: Joel Hollingsworth and Josh Farrar.
Blue shells and bolts: The first blue shell reaches Daetilus at the front and blows him up, taking away 10 points. Another blue shell is released from the back of the pack (of those who played this week).
Top 10 after Round 3:
| Daetilus | 64 |
| Marietta Vol | 64 |
| Fatso | 64 |
| Sam | 59 |
| Joel Hollingsworth | 52 |
| Josh Farrar | 51 |
| Raven17 | 51 |
| Harley | 47 |
| Dave Strunk | 45 |
| TennVol95 | 43 |
Full table
| Player | Prior | Prior Specials | R1 | R1 Sub | R1 Specials | R1 Total | R2 | R2 Sub | R2 Specials | R2 Total | R3 | R3 Sub | R3 Specials | R3 Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Daetilus | 74 | 74 | 74 | 74 | 74 | 74 | -10 | 64 | ||||||
| Marietta Vol | 59 | 5 | 64 | 64 | 64 | 64 | 64 | 64 | ||||||
| Fatso | 44 | 44 | 44 | 20 | 64 | 64 | 64 | 64 | ||||||
| Sam | 44 | 5 | 49 | 49 | 49 | 10 | 59 | 59 | 59 | |||||
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Alabama 45, Tennessee 7: This is Not OK
Remember when there was such a thing as Tennessee Pride?
Now, it’s just sausage.
Our hopes have been ground up yet again. We were reduced to hoping for moral victories against Alabama, just wanting the Vols to cover the spread. Or, in some extreme cases, wanting a lopsided margin “for the betterment of the program” that results in head coach Butch Jones getting fired. It’s not the way you want to spend a season.
What we got Saturday was embarrassment yet again in a spread-covering, lopsided 45-7 win by Alabama that saw them rest starting quarterback Jalen Hurts for almost the entire second half.
They didn’t need him. Tennessee’s offense wasn’t scoring a single touchdown, much less overcoming what was then a 28-0 deficit.
Ho-hum. The only thing that happened was what was expected all along.
The only threat for a marquee opponent playing UT these days is a potential injury. The Vols have been reduced to back-page news.
There was once a time, seems like centuries ago, when Tennessee and Alabama played to epic duals. Legends were forged under the haze of cigar smoke on the Third Saturday in October. The nation tuned in. Polls were affected. Championships won.
That’s still happening these days. Unfortunately for the Vols, it’s only happening for Nick Saban and the Crimson Tide.
What was once considered a rivalry is now just another speed bump on the highway to More Important Games for UA. There are plenty of those these days for Alabama, which is now on an 11-game winning streak over a Tennessee team that, again in Year 5 of Butch Jones’ tenure, looks like a helicopter dropped it right back in the wilderness where the Vols wandered for years in the final few of Phillip Fulmer, the eventful-but-unfruitful 2009 hiccup of Lane Kiffin and the entire Derek Dooley era.
When the Vols seemingly punched in the football for a John Kelly touchdown to make it look a tiny bit more respectable in the fourth quarter against the Tide on Saturday, there was at least a glimmer of something upon which to build. Instead, replays showed Kelly was short. Then Trey Smith jumped for a false start, Kelly ran for a short gain and Jarrett Guarantano threw an interception.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2017 Tennessee Volunteers!
They’ve still not scored an offensive touchdown now in 14 quarters dating back to the second 15 minutes of the UMass game. That was 28 days ago. The only blip on the scoreboard against the Tide was a 97-yard interception return by backup linebacker Daniel Bituli.
That made the score 28-7. And, guess what? You cheered. You maybe even stood up. It was exciting. I did.
That’s just sad.
I live in Alabama, and I care more about this game than any other game in any other sport, and I can’t get excited for it anymore. You can talk all you want to about Saban’s dominance and all the championships the Tide have won and the machine that has been built in Tuscaloosa. All of that is viable and true.
But it isn’t the reason why Tennessee is now a laughingstock.
The day started with Tim Tebow — TIM FREAKING TEBOW — giving the Vols a back-handed pep talk on a morning college football show. Listening to Gary Danielson and Brad Nessler attempt to pay UT compliments on national television sound like trying to judge Charlie Weis in a beauty contest.
It isn’t OK what this program now is in Jones’ fifth year. Something has to change. I’m not sure about how much money Tennessee saves depending on when the timing of the decision is, but every single weekend, we have to sit in our chairs, turn on college football shows and hear every single commentator talk about how bad Tennessee is, how Butch has lost the team and how the Vols have to make a change.
None of us WANTED this, but then we watch the Vols play actual football [or something vaguely resembling it] and you see that it really has to happen. You can’t worry about recruiting, because, now, the only things that truly matter are player development and game day coaching. Neither of which are happening the way they should within the program right now.
There are two elite teams in the SEC: Alabama and Georgia. Tennessee has lost to those teams a combined 86-7. That isn’t getting closer to being competitive. It’s simply called regression.
There are two other mid-level teams the Vols have played within their division, and they lost to Florida and South Carolina on the final plays of the game. As the rest of the season unfolds, there will be more losses. So, it’s a matter of when you make the ultimate decision and how much money the powers that be will spend to make this program great again.
For those who didn’t watch this game or are just seeing the scores run across the bottom of the screen, Saturday’s 45-7 loss to Alabama looks like the embarrassing blowout that it indeed was. But there are players at UT; there are puzzle pieces who just need to be molded, coached, developed, disciplined.
Shawn Shamburger hasn’t hardly played at all this year, and he looked aggressive on Saturday in his first career start, getting beat his share of times but flashing a lot, too. Bituli still can’t stay on the field all the time even though UT’s defense is so much better with him on it. We still have him three more years. Somebody just needs to help him realize the unlimited, NFL potential he has.
John Kelly is a warrior. Guarantano has so many exciting, raw skills even though he hasn’t come close to putting everything together yet. You can see it there, but it’s just under the surface, needing somebody to unlock it.
Nobody ever gave Tennessee a chance on Saturday. The No. 1 reason is because nobody had any confidence that Butch Jones and his coaching staff could put the Vols in a position to win. This offense is broken, and it cannot be fixed. It can’t be successful in the SEC.
Recruits are dropping. Players are fighting. Other players are leaving. And the losses are piling up. They’re coming in all shapes and sizes, with increasing levels of frustration and futility.
I’m proud to be a Tennessee Vol. I’m proud of my program, proud of my school, proud of the players, proud of the stadium and proud of the traditions. But you know what traditions are? They’re things that happened in the past.
I need to be proud of the product that’s put on the field week in and week out, and I’m not. This is a shadow of what Tennessee football is supposed to be.
Somebody fix it.
Tennessee-Alabama online game-watching party
The Tennessee Volunteers travel to Tuscaloosa today to take on the vaunted #1 Alabama Crimson Tide at 3:30. It’s the CBS Game of the Week.
Alabama is reportedly now a 37-point favorite. They have more talent. They have better coaching. Every number that matters is crimson.
But take heart. Be of good courage. Show some effort. Care.
It’s time to show the right kind of pride in Tennessee football.
Go Vols.
- Kickoff: Oct. 21, 3:30 p.m. ET
- TV: CBS
- Watch online
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Watch Tim Tebow’s pre-game pep talk to Tennessee ahead of the Alabama game
Former Florida Gator Tim Tebow just gave the Tennessee Volunteers, via SEC Nation, a much-needed pep talk ahead of the Third Saturday in October game against Alabama this afternoon. Preach:
Heart.
Courage.
Effort.
Pride.
The Gameday on Rocky Top Guessing Game: Beat Bama Anyway edition
Time to play the Gameday on Rocky Top Guessing Game. If you have no idea what that is, you can find out everything you need to know here. Last week’s results are here.
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Good luck, and Go Vols!
How far can the defense carry Tennessee?
We all know the line and the lack of touchdowns; anything Tennessee’s offense does well against Alabama’s top-tier defense should be considered a gift. But what about Tennessee’s defense?
It continues to be in the program’s best interests for Team 121 to figure itself out before it becomes Team 122, no matter who the coach is. Getting the offense back on track deserves the headlines, but the idea also applies to a defense returning a wealth of experience. The early conversation on Bob Shoop’s unit centered on sub-par performances against unique rushing offenses and a catastrophic failure on the final play at Florida. Since then, the volume of the larger conversations on Butch Jones and offensive failure has overwhelmed a quieter truth: Tennessee’s defense has become fairly reliable.
Thirty-six percent of Florida’s 380 yards came on two plays in the final 11 minutes. The Vols held Georgia to 5.25 yards per play; only Notre Dame’s defense has done better against the Bulldogs this year. Then the Vols held South Carolina to 5.05 yards per play, with 52% of their 323 yards coming on two drives in the third and fourth quarter.
Is the worst thing about Tennessee’s defense…Tennessee’s offense? The Vols gave up those two drives to the Gamecocks around three three-and-outs and a five-and-out. Tennessee’s defense still struggles with depth due to injury, especially at linebacker, and can be worn down late in the game.
But the Vol defense is pretty good at preventing big plays.
Tennessee is currently 29th nationally in 10+ yard plays allowed, and 22nd nationally in 20+ yard plays allowed. Last year the Vols finished 115th and 113th in those two categories. In the advanced metrics at Football Study Hall, the Vol defense is second nationally in preventing explosive plays.
Tennessee’s defense still wears the scars of the Georgia Tech game, as well as those late, long drives against South Carolina. The Vols allow 5.11 yards per carry on the year, 114th nationally. But the Vols are 35th nationally in yards per passing attempt allowed, and would be even higher if not for the hail mary at Florida.
Tennessee’s third down conversions also suffer due to late game fatigue: the Vols allow conversions on 43% of third downs, 101st nationally. This may be the statistic most impacted by the performance of the Vol offense. And as good as the defense is at preventing big plays, it is equally as bad if not worse in the red zone: 20 opponent trips have resulted in 19 scores, 124th nationally.
Will any of this trend positive against Alabama? I’m not sure, but the defense’s performance will be the most interesting thing to watch on Saturday. And that may continue beyond this week: with a more manageable schedule after this weekend, how far might the Vol defense carry this team the rest of the way, and how much might that impact the outlook on this team in 2018?
Tennessee’s Locks & Keys Week 8: The Bloodbath
There’s really nothing that can be said by now that hasn’t already been said, and there’s not much we can do about this weekend, either.
More than likely, unless Tennessee pulls off one of the biggest upsets in school history, the Vols are going to be 3-4 with an embarrassing loss at the hands of the hated Alabama Crimson Tide. UT is a 37-point underdog, which pretty much tells you all you know about what this coaching regime has become.
Now, head coach Butch Jones will try to have his team pull off the improbable and take him from lame-duck status to an up-in-the-air, tenuous situation at best. With the way the fans have responded to UT’s fifth-year coach in the past few weeks, it’s difficult to see any scenario where he is the coach next year. The timing of when that happens is anybody’s guess.
But, for now, Jones is the head coach of our Vols. It would be great if we could all treat him as such and pull for this team this weekend against the top-ranked team in the country. If you’re a fan, you’re a fan through thick and thin. And it hasn’t been this thin in a while, dating back to Jones’ first year and the season-ending, losing year-clinching loss to Vanderbilt.
Last weekend, UT fell to .500 with a 15-9 loss at home to a bad South Carolina team that was missing its top receiver and was running its third-string running back. Yet, Brandon Johnson couldn’t catch a rifled fourth-down pass by Jarrett Guarantano as time expired, and the Vols expired. Again.
A big reason is because only one of my keys was met, and even that is debatable. Let’s look.
- Put Guarantano in position to be successful: Again, the first two games of offensive coordinator Larry Scott’s tenure was extremely misleading. He’s been bad since. Really bad. In Jarrett Guarantano’s first career start, he had just 133 passing yards and -2 rushing yards. They didn’t roll him out of the pocket enough. They didn’t do quick-hitters enough. They didn’t use the middle of the field enough. A lot of that is UT’s receivers look uncoached. But the whole offense is discombobulated. FAIL.
- Block out the noise: Tennessee seemed to respond very well to start the game, coming out of the gates playing with passion. The offense has deep-rooted problems unrelated to all the buzz off the field, but they’re a major reason why there’s buzz in the first place. Still, this team looked largely unaffected. SUCCESS!
- Find some heroes: Johnson had the chance to be one. So did Johnson. So did a defensive line that got to face A.J. Turner as SCAR’s RB instead of Rico Dowdle. Exactly nobody stepped up. FAIL.
- Play a full game: After an inspired start, the Vols made zero halftime adjustments. Before the final drive, they had -7 total yards. The defense couldn’t stop the cutback on the inside zone. It’s just a poorly coached team all the way around. FAIL
- Get to Bentley: UT sacked him once. Ho-hum. FAIL
When it came to the locks, we’re back on track. We went 6-2 last week and after that atrocious 1-7 week where we were horrid, we’ve gone 11-5 in the last two weeks. That’s SKRONG, as Jameis Winston would say.
But before we get to this week’s hot picks, let’s look at the keys to beating Alabama.
KEYS
Now, we have to move onto Alabama. God help us all. It’s going to get ugly, and it’s probably going to get there quickly. If you’re a Tennessee fan, pretty much the only thing to root for is for the Vols to beat the spread, and then for what you want to happen — whatever that is — after the game.
Petition the SEC to play 14 players on both sides at once
This is the No. 9 scoring offense and the 15th-ranked overall offense in the country the Vols are facing this week, and Alabama would be even better if it kept its starters in the game longer than three quarters.
The Tide don’t have to.
Defensively, there’s more speed and talent all over the field than any team in the country.
This is going to be bad for the Vols. I really don’t see any way it isn’t. If Tennessee plays its best game and Alabama plays its worst, it’s still a double-digit loss without some game-changing plays. Obviously, you have to play 11-on-11. It’s just hard seeing the Vols have a chance to win if they have to play by the rules, which, unfortunately, they will.
Only Alabama gets away with breaking the rules in Tuscaloosa.
(See what I did there? Man, that’s a good setup…)
Hurts (Not) So Good
Everybody loves to talk about the ways Jalen Hurts struggles. There aren’t a lot of people who talk about just what kind of next-level dimension the sophomore signal-caller brings to an offense that was already very good.
First-year coordinator Brian Daboll has done a good job of putting Hurts in position to make plays, and a lot of times, when plays aren’t there, Hurts creates them with his feet. The Vols have to make him be a dropback passer, spy him and take away the run. Nobody else has been successful doing it, and UT has been anything but disciplined in its run lanes this year. But the Vols have to find something in this game.
Or Hurts will crush them. He did last year as a true freshman.
Four Turnovers
Tennessee is next-to-last in the league in turnover differential and tied for ninth in takeaways. That’s terrible. The Vols need to somehow turn into an opportunistic unit and get FOUR turnovers to have a chance to win this game.
Yes, that’s a tall order. It’s going to take some tall orders for the Vols to win this game. They’ve got to do some crazy things. Whatever it takes. They have to create extra possessions and take advantage of those possessions. They also have to play a clean, mistake-free game themselves. Then, maybe it can happen.
Maybe.
Berry Merry Return Game
He hasn’t played since the season opener, but Tennessee dynamic returner Evan Berry may play against the Crimson Tide. That’s a huge X-factor for the Vols.
It doesn’t matter who they play, Berry is capable of taking kicks to the house. Given how horrible the Vols offense has been, Tennessee needs to generate points in other ways. Berry taking one back for six would be a great manufactured touchdown. If there’s any way possible he can play, Butch Jones needs to get Berry on the field.
He’s a difference-maker in a game where the Vols simply don’t have many.
Game of their Life
Hey, stranger things have happened, right?
I mean, not much stranger. But there have been some strange things happen.
The team we’ve watched this year in orange were fortunate to beat UMass. They’re 3-4, and they’re about to fire their coach. That team may lose 70-0 to Alabama.
But this UT team is better than the UT team we’ve seen. There comes a point in time when it becomes more than a game. It’s about pride. Whether the Vols play for Jones, play for each other or play to prove everybody wrong, it’s time they played for something. They’ve got to play the best game imaginable to beat Alabama in this game.
Go make a memory.
LOCKS
Hey! Break up the me’s! I’m awesome! 11-5 in the past two weeks, and all of a sudden, I’m 26-23-1 on the year. That’s pretty good. We’ve rallied after that 1-7 week, and now, we’re back on track.
For the most part, we were really seeing things well last week. The bad loss was picking UCLA to beat Arizona, and the Bruins lost 47-30. So, yeah, that sucked. But the other loss was Michigan State, who were 4.5 favorites over Minnesota and won 30-27. The Spartans were dominating that game and allowed 17 unanswered points to close the game. Man, that one should have been a win.
Other than that — SKRONG. West Virginia covered against Texas Tech, North Carolina State handled Pitt to cover 11.5, TCU hammered Kansas State on the road, Navy and Memphis were waaaaaaay under 75.5, and we got lucky in the UCLA under as that covered by a half a point in a barn burner. There you have it. 6-2.
We’re winning money. You know, if it were legal and all. At the very least, we’re helping you make your picks in your fantasy college football leagues. Let’s keep it up, shall we?
- Purdue -9 over Rutgers. All Purdue does is win money. It’s like Vegas still doesn’t respect Jeff Brohm and the Boilermakers. I sure do, and I’m riding them to the bank every week. They covered easily against Wisconsin last week in a loss, and they will this week in a win.
- Syracuse +17 over Miami. I don’t get this at all. The Orange aren’t bad. They aren’t as good as they were when they upset Clemson last Friday night. But the Hurricanes are the worst undefeated team out there. Dino Babers will have his team ready. It will lose, but it’ll be close.
- UCF -7.5 over Navy. This is my favorite BY FAR of the week. Navy couldn’t stop Memphis last weekend, and UCF’s offense is a lot better than the Tigers. UCF’s defense is better, too. This will be a double-digit win.
- SMU -8.5 over Cincinnati. Luke Fickell is going to turn around the Bearcats, but it isn’t this year. Chad Morris is doing a good job in Dallas, and the Mustangs score too many points for the Bearcats to hang. It won’t be as bad as the UCF game, but SMU will win by double digits.
- South Florida -12.5 over Tulane. The Green Wave is having a nice return-to-respectability season. But Charlie Strong has the Bulls playing well. Tulane won’t have an answer for Quinton Flowers and Co.
- West Virginia -9 over Baylor. Much like Purdue, all the Mountaineers do is win money. Now, they’re playing winless Baylor and not even getting 10 points. I don’t get it.
- Georgia Tech -5.5 over Wake Forest. Wake isn’t offensively inept like it has been in the past, but I’m not sure the Demon Deacons will have an answer for the option. This GT team should have beaten Miami. It will take out its frustrations against the Deacs.
- Oklahoma -12.5 over Kansas State. The Wildcats get too much respect for a mediocre team. The Sooners are much better, and they’ll win by more than two touchdowns on the road. Book it.

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