Marietta Vol takes first place in the 2017 GRT Guessing Game

Mushrooms, bananas, bolts, and blue shells all have a say in the final round of the 2017 Gameday on Rocky Top Guessing Game, but skill wins out in the end.

Thanks to everyone for playing this season. Play by play below.

Top 10 as of the end of last week

Marietta Vol 164
Raven17 161
Sam 144
Fatso 124
LTVol99 121
Dave Strunk 120
RandyH 119
Josh Farrar 116
cscott95 112
Daetilus 109

 

Round 1

Q: Which team hits 20 points first? (20-40 points)

A: Vanderbilt (20 points)

Due to Evan’s bolt in the last round last week, nobody but him had a shot at this one. And he missed it. No points for nobody!

Mushrooms: Raven17 and itsNickJ

Bananas: Marietta Vol and me, picking up right where I left off last week

Blue shells and bolts: The blue shell moves, and is now within one spot of the target. Who is it? Raven17, who just moved into the lead thanks to her mushroom and Marietta Vol’s banana. Also, MitchellK draws a thunderbolt.

Top 10 after Rounds 1:

Raven17 166
Marietta Vol 159
Sam 144
Fatso 124
LTVol99 121
Dave Strunk 120
RandyH 119
Josh Farrar 116
cscott95 112
Daetilus 109

 

Round 2

Q: Who wins and by how much? (10-30 points)

A: Vanderbilt, by 8 or more (18)

Due to MitchellK’s bolt last round, everybody’s disqualified from this question. No matter. Nobody got it right anyway.

Mushrooms: LTVol99 and Josh Farrar

Bananas: MitchellK and yes, me, again

Blue shells and bolts: The blue shell blows up Raven17, putting Marietta Vol back into the lead. ItsNickJ throws another blue shell, but it’s harmless because there is no time for it to reach the front now.

Top 10 after Round 2:

Marietta Vol 159
Raven17 156
Sam 144
LTVol99 126
Fatso 124
Josh Farrar 121
Dave Strunk 120
RandyH 119
cscott95 112
Daetilus 109

 

Round 3

Q: Which is greater, Vanderbilt’s rushing yards or Vanderbilt’s passing yards? (20 points)

A: Vanderbilt’s passing yards (20 points) (283 – 246)

Four players get this right, including the leader, Marietta Vol.

Mushrooms: Fatso and Josh Farrar

Bananas: Daetilus and Josh Farrar

Blue shells and bolts: Harmless blue shell is harmless, and Marietta Vol coasts across the finish line.

Final Top 10:

Marietta Vol 179
Raven17 156
Sam 144
Fatso 129
LTVol99 126
Daetilus 124
Josh Farrar 121
Dave Strunk 120
RandyH 119
cscott95 112
Harley 112

 

Full table

Player Prior Prior Specials R1 R1 Sub R1 Specials R1 Total R2 R2 Sub R2 Specials R2 Total R3 R3 Sub R3 Specials R3 Total
Marietta Vol 164 164 -5 159 159 159 20 179 179
Raven17 161 161 5 166 166 -10 156 156 156
Sam 144 144 144 144 144 144 144
Fatso 124 124 124 124 124 124 5 129
LTVol99 121 121 121 121 5 126 126 126
Daetilus 109 109 109 109 109 20 129 -5 124
Josh Farrar 116 116 116 116 5 121 121 0 121
Dave Strunk 120 120 120 120 120 120 120
RandyH 119 119 119 119
cscott95 112 112 112 112 112 112 112
Harley 92 92 92 92 92 20 112 112
Evan 104 BOLT 104 104 104 104 104 104
Jayyyy 104 104 104 104
MitchellK 101 101 BOLT 101 101 -5 96 96 96
Joel Hollingsworth 82 82 -5 77 77 -5 72 20 92 92
Bulldog 85 80 80 80 80
TennVol95 78 78 78 78
Displaced_Vol_Fan 67 67 67 67 67 67 67
Will Shelton 66 66 66 66
KD 60 60 60 60
PaVol 32 32 32 32
Oleg Zeltser 28 28 28 28
Phil 28 28 28 28
Alyas Grey 26 26 26 26
RockyTopinKY 26 26 26 26
WHODEYVOLS 25 25 25 25
vfl_mks 22 22 22 22
Packtar 13 13 13 13
PaVolFan 10 10 10 10
hoosiervol 9 9 9 9
NJ Vol 8 8 8 8
RockyTop5 8 8 8 8
charles matthews 7 7 7 7
GoVols365 6 6 6 6
nelsona350 6 6 6 6
itsNickJ 0 0 5 5 5 5 5 5
driskigm 5 5 5 5
Gr82baTNVol 5 5 5 5
Jason 5 5 5 5
Rockytop01 5 5 5 5
btpenley 4 4 4 4
wreckvol 4 4 4 4
Drew 3 3 3 3
BibleVol 1 1 1 1
Craig 1 1 1 1
Larry Hildebrand 1 1 1 1
utkjmitch 1 1 1 1
benvol 0 0 0 0
Donald Trump 0 0 0 0
GTZW 0 0 0 0
MediocreVOL 0 0 0 0
Volfaninsc 0 0 0 0

Vanderbilt 42, Tennessee 24: the sun goes down on a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day

Right now, somebody somewhere on Rocky Top is writing an obituary or, if they’re feeling especially kind, a eulogy for the 2017 Tennessee Volunteer football season. It seems appropriate, as the Vols have just concluded their first eight-loss season in the history of the program by losing to Vanderbilt, 42-24. Tennessee is winless in the SEC this season, and they’ve now lost to the Commodores four out of the last six years.

Yes, employing a death metaphor to describe the end of the season is quite tempting. But I’m going to go with something a little less drastic and final. I’m putting them to bed.

The 2017 season has been a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day, and this last chapter today was just more of the same.

Although the Tennessee offense looked good early, scoring two touchdowns on its first two drives, things fell apart from there. Vanderbilt was the worst rushing defense the Vols had seen all year, and Tennessee managed only 55 rushing yards against them. They were also the worst rushing offense the Vols had seen all year, and the Commodores rolled up 246 on them.

And Tennessee posted a mere 24 points against the worst scoring defense they’d faced all year.

It’s no wonder. About half the Vols’ roster was missing. They’d already fired their coach. They were down to their last five scholarship offensive linemen, and Jarrett Guarantano paid the price all night.

It was an awful nightcap to an awful season, and I absolutely hate it for the players who gave their all this year and got next to nothing in return.

So, I’m not putting any of those guys in the grave, even metaphorically.

But it is time to call it a day and hit the sack. Time to close our blinds and shut our eyes and turn off our minds so that we can tackle a new tomorrow with a new leader and a renewed mind. It is still beautiful here, even at sunset of a rotten day.

And may we all dream of a better, brighter tomorrow.

Go Vols.

Tennessee Vols vs. Vanderbilt Commodores TV time and channel, online game-watching party

The Tennessee Volunteers lay the 2017 football season to rest this afternoon with a game against the Vanderbilt Commodores. The game kicks off at 4:00 p.m. and will be televised on the SEC Network. It should be a good game, with each team looking for its first conference win of the season in its last chance.

Go Vols.

Chip Kelly reportedly to UCLA, Nebraska fires Mike Riley

News is breaking now that Chip Kelly has agreed to become the next UCLA head coach and that Nebraska has fired Mike Riley. For Tennessee fans, that means that Kelly is off the board, that the Florida Gators are still in competition with the Vols for a coach, and that both the Gators and the Vols are in competition with Nebraska for current UCF head coach Scott Frost.

Kelly had probably already been eliminated from consideration, as the latest reports were that he was choosing between Florida and UCLA. Some Vols fans had hoped to see him at Florida so they wouldn’t go after Frost, but now you have to think that Tennessee and Florida may be co-suitors of both Frost and Dan Mullen.

More as it develops.

 

 

 

The Gameday on Rocky Top Guessing Game: Vanderbilt Commodores edition

Time to play the Gameday on Rocky Top Guessing Game. If you have no idea what that is, you can find out everything you need to know here. Last week’s results are here.

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Good luck, and Go Vols!

 

The Statsy Preview Machine has some good news for the Vols against Vandy

Among much bad news for the 2017 Tennessee Volunteer football team, there is at least this bit of good news: For its last game of the season, Tennessee will be playing against the worst rushing offense, the worst rushing defense, and the worst scoring defense it has seen all season.

Tennessee rushing

Tennessee is averaging 123.1 rushing yards per game, while Vanderbilt is giving up 211.5 per game, which makes them the worst rushing defense the Vols will have faced the entire season. The closest comparison for a prior Tennessee opponent that is better at defending the run than Vanderbilt is Massachusetts, which is allowing 181.5. Tennessee got 135 on the ground against them. Based on all of that, my guess for rushing yards for Tennessee against Vanderbilt is 170.

Vanderbilt rushing

The Tennessee defense is allowing 251.7 rushing yards per game, while the Vanderbilt run game is averaging 94.5 yards per game. That also makes Vandy the worst rushing offense Tennessee has seen all season. The closest “better-than” comparison for a prior Tennessee opponent is South Carolina, which is averaging 131.5 rushing yards per game and got 194 against Tennessee. I’m guessing Vanderbilt will get about 140 rushing yards against Tennessee’s defense.

Tennessee passing

Tennessee is averaging 172.8 passing yards per game, and Vanderbilt is allowing 195.6. The closest “not-as-good” comparison for a prior Tennessee opponent is Georgia Tech, which is giving up 198.3 yards per game through the air, and Tennessee, in another life, put up 221 against them. The closest “better-than” comparison for a prior Tennessee opponent is LSU. They’re allowing 181.5 passing yards per game, and Tennessee got 249 against them. My guess is that Tennessee will put up 200 passing yards this weekend.

Vanderbilt passing

The Tennessee pass defense is allowing 150.6 passing yards per game. Vanderbilt is getting 240.0. The closest “not-as-good” comparison for a prior Tennessee opponent is South Carolina, which is getting 220.8 yards per game through the air, and they got 129 against Tennessee. The closest “better-than” comparison for a prior Tennessee opponent is Southern Mississippi, which is averaging 256.5 passing yards per game and got 161 against Tennessee. I’m going with Vanderbilt putting up about 150 passing yards against Tennessee.

Tennessee scoring

Tennessee is averaging 19.5 points per game, and Vanderbilt is allowing 32.0, which makes them the worst scoring defense the Vols have seen this year. The closest “better-than” comparison for a prior Tennessee opponent is Missouri. They’re allowing 30.5 points per game, and Tennessee got 17 against them. My prediction is that Tennessee will score around 24 points against Vanderbilt.

Vanderbilt scoring

Tennessee is allowing 27.9 points per game. Vanderbilt is averaging 23.0. The closest “not-as-good” comparison for a prior Tennessee opponent is Florida, which is averaging 22.1 points, and they got 26 against Tennessee. The closest “better-than” comparison for a prior Tennessee opponent is South Carolina, which is averaging 25.4 points and got 15 against Tennessee. I’m going with Vanderbilt putting up about 21 points against Tennessee.

SUMMARY

  • Tennessee rushing yards: 170
  • Vanderbilt rushing yards: 140
  • Tennessee passing yards: 200
  • Vanderbilt passing yards: 150
  • Tennessee points: 24
  • Vanderbilt points: 21

Those are my eyeball-adjusted predictions. For the record, the SPM itself is spitting out Tennessee 24.3, Vanderbilt 19.8.

Current betting lines and other statistical models

The SPM mostly agrees with Vegas all the way around this week, as the spread opened at Tennessee -1, with an over/under of 45.5. That makes it look like Tennessee, 23-22 or so.

ESPN’s FPI gives the Vols a 69% chance of beating Vandy. S&P+ likes Vandy, but only with a gun pointed to its head, as the Vols have a 49% chance of winning. They project the score to be Vandy, 25.5-25.

So, the FPI, the SPM, and Vegas all like the Vols in a close one, and S&P+ is quibbling over decimals.

Last Week

Here’s how the statsy preview machine did for the game between Tennessee and LSU last week.

  • Tennessee rushing yards: 110 (actually 38)
  • LSU rushing yards: 300 (actually 200)
  • Tennessee passing yards: 110 (actually 249)
  • LSU passing yards: 200 (actually 81)
  • Tennessee points: 13 (actually 10)
  • LSU points: 24 (actually 30)

Again, those were eyeball-adjusted numbers. The SPM itself said LSU 17.3, Tennessee 6.3.

Did the Statsy Preview Machine win in Vegas?

The line was LSU -14, and the SPM said they woulldn’t cover, so no, the SPM lost this game against the spread. Overall, though, the SPM went 37-21 (63.79%) against the spread for the week. Over the six weeks we’ve been testing it, it’s gone 67.92%, 53.06%, 54.55%, 55.93%, 46.43%, and 63.79%, for an overall rate of 56.97%. It doesn’t understand the 2017 Tennessee Volunteer football team.

Jauan Jennings dismissed from the team after release of Instagram video

There are so many things wrong with the Jauan Jennings news that I don’t even know where to start. In case you haven’t heard yet, the news is this: Jennings posted an R-rated (for language) video to Instagram, the sanitized gist of which was that Tennessee’s coaches were liars, and he was going home. Shortly thereafter, interim head coach Brady Hoke announced that Jennings had been dismissed from the team.

First, if you are late to the party, you might have some trouble appreciating the full context of what happened. I saw the video last night. It was a video recording of a phone that was playing the video, but after searching for about 15 minutes this morning, I can no longer find Jenning’s original video. This one from Sports Illustrated is the closest to the original that I’ve found, but it silences out all of the profanity and is incomplete to boot. A sanitized version relating that Jennings called the coaches names doesn’t really give you the full picture. If you’re going to have an opinion, you should find the full video and watch it (alone if you have kids and care about that stuff). He essentially flipped the entire coaching staff an especially angry double bird right to their faces.

But here’s something I don’t think anyone else is talking about yet. Jennings’ Instagram account is apparently private. Sure, he should have known that “private” doesn’t really mean “private” anymore, and he should have expected it to get out, but whatever media source ignored that fact and recorded their own video of the private video for the purpose of making it news probably shouldn’t have done that, either. Some non-media fan probably would have done the same thing at some point (and maybe it even started that way), and it almost certainly would have made the rounds on social media anyway, but do we really want to make public the things college athletes set up as private? This is not a criticism of all of the media reporting the news now that it’s out; it’s questioning the person who, unable to share or embed the video the usual way because of the privacy settings, decided to get around that by recording a video of Jennings’ video and making it news. And if Jennings intentionally allowed known media members into his circle of people entitled to see his private posts, well, then it’s his own fault, because then he essentially said those things right to the media. Regardless, we’re probably talking about this eventually no matter what, but I really don’t like the idea of sharing the actual video publicly unless public sharing was enabled.

Third, I was as shocked as everyone else that the school’s response was to dismiss Jennings from the team. How can an interim coach who’s only technically in charge for one more game of a dying season have the authority to make such a quick and drastic decision impacting the future of the program? It does certainly seem that the most cautious and prudent way out of the mess would have been to instead suspend Jennings indefinitely and wait for the program to settle.

I do think that that is true, but I also feel the need to clarify the narrative a bit. The shorthand for the story is that the interim coach dismissed a star player. That’s partially true but also incomplete. Brady Hoke probably doesn’t actually have the authority to make that call by himself, and he says that he didn’t. Athletic director John Currie was involved as well.

So, Currie probably had the actual authority and the final say. But why such a quick decision under the unique circumstances? Currie showed great patience in making the decision to fire Butch Jones, so why such a quick trigger here? So Jennings has some negative feelings about the coaching staff. Isn’t this the same staff that Currie felt so bad about that he fired them? (Yes, I know only Jones is actually gone right now. But most of the rest are going as well.)

Sure, Jennings didn’t express his message very well at all and shouldn’t have done it on social media, and maybe Currie felt that there was just no going back after that. You can’t stick the double birds in your employer’s face and just expect to go back to your desk when you feel like it. I’d bet that most acting head coaches would have dismissed an active player who did the same thing. It’s not irrational to believe that a player who has done that will never be able to play for the staff he so disrespected again.

But that’s the thing, none of these players are ever going to play for this staff again, not at Tennessee. He criticized, in his own unique way, the outgoing coaching staff, not the one he was playing for. So why not leave the question to the next coach?

Maybe Currie already knows who he’s going to hire. Maybe he consulted privately with that guy or knows what that guy’s decision on Jennings would be, and maybe he wanted to save him the trouble of having to burn some goodwill early by making that hard decision himself.

I don’t know. You don’t know. The whole thing is a terrible mess.

What’s worse, this should have been a time to push the reset button on the program, to purge most of the angst boiling over in the fan base. Who doesn’t love an interim coach? If he wins, cool. If he loses, it’s on the prior coach. And the athletic director had curried some favor with the fan base for making a move on Jones and had been positioned to make them very, very happy with the next hire.

But suddenly, things have soured again. It’s rare that an interim feels the heat of an angry fan base, but Hoke seems to have accomplished that, and Currie has just done considerable damage to any confidence the fan base may have had in him.

We don’t know all of the details. Perhaps Hoke and Currie actually made the right decision based on information that they have but we don’t.

Everything can be fixed by the right hire.

But people are nervous, and this didn’t help.

 

College Football TV Schedule and Rooting Guide for Vols fans (with Vols hoops): Week 13

Here’s the Week 13 college football TV schedule, curated for Vols fans. As always, it includes kickoff times, TV stations, and what might be of interest to a Vols fan, along with helpful suggestions on how to watch everything most efficiently and who to root for in each game. We’ve also tossed in Vols hoops this week.

The full (football) schedule for the entire weekend is also included at the bottom of the post.

Go Vols!

Tuesday-Thursday, November 21-23

Date Time TV Away Team Home Team Why How Root For
Tuesday 7:00 PM ESPN3 Bowling Green Eastern Michigan It's football. Pick one and relax.
Tuesday 7:00 PM ESPNU Kent State Akron
Tuesday 7:00 PM ESPN3 Miami, OH Ball State
Wednesday 12:00 PM ESPN2 Tennessee Purdue GO VOLS! Live GO VOLS!
Thursday 12:30/7:00 TBD Tennessee Villanova/WKU GO VOLS! Live GO VOLS!
Thursday 7:30 PM ESPN Ole Miss (16) Mississippi State Dan Mullen in action Live Mississippi State

 

As far as we know, Dan Mullen is still in play to be Tennessee’s next head coach, so Thursday provides a chance to kick his tires a bit. Plus, if you haven’t checked out Vols hoops yet, you should. They’re fun to watch, and they have at least one really good opportunity to build a nice resume Wednesday, and, depending on how Wednesday goes, perhaps another one Thursday.

Friday, November 24

On tap on Black Friday? More hoops, plus a bunch of Tennessee football coaching candidate watching. I don’t know how viable of a candidate Gary Patterson is, but you get a chance to watch him in action at noon, and then at 3:30, we get a look at both Charlie Strong and Scott Frost. The Nebraska game at 4:00 made the curated list because of the fragile hope that the Huskers have such a huge win that they decide not to fire their coach and therefore miss out on alum Scott Frost.

Time TV Away Team Home Team Why How Root For
TBD TBD Tennessee TBD GO VOLS! Live GO VOLS!
12:00 PM FS1 Baylor (12) TCU Gary Patterson Live TCU
3:30 PM ABC USF (15) UCF Charlie Strong/Scott Frost Live Discuss
4:00 PM FS1 Iowa Nebraska Scott Frost Peek in Huskers

 

Saturday, November 25

I LOVE rivalry week, and this is a good one, with a couple of games featuring ranked rivals going at each other. The Iron Bowl, in particular, should be fun to watch. Plus, there are a ton of opportunities to watch Vols coaching candidates in action. Oh, and the Vols send out their seniors against Vanderbilt at 4:00 on the SECN.

Time TV Away Team Home Team Why How Root For
12:00 PM ABC (7) Georgia Georgia Tech Former opponents Channel hop The flexbone
12:00 PM FOX (9) Ohio State (24) Michigan Big game/Greg Schiano Channel hop
12:00 PM ESPNU East Carolina (21) Memphis Mike Norvell Channel hop
12:00 PM SECN Louisville Kentucky Bobby Petrino Channel hop
12:00 PM CBSSN Tulane SMU Chad Morris Channel hop
12:30 PM RSN Duke Wake Forest David Cutcliffe Channel hop
3:30 PM CBS (1) Alabama (6) Auburn HUGE GAME Live/Peek in Auburn
3:30 PM BTN (10) Penn State Maryland James Franklin/D.J. Durkin DVR
3:30 PM ESPN2 Iowa State Kansas State Matt Campbell DVR
4:00 PM SECN Vanderbilt Tennessee GO VOLS! Live GO VOLS!
7:30 PM SECN Texas A&M (20) LSU Coaching search Peek in Texas A&M
8:00 PM FOX (14) Washington State (18) Washington Mike Leach Live

 

Noon slot

At noon, there’s a big game between ranked rivals Ohio State and Michigan that also features a Tennessee coaching candidate in Buckeyes’ defensive coordinator Greg Schiano. There are also a handful of other coaching candidates in action, plus a chance to see if Georgia might have some trouble with Georgia Tech’s flexbone offense.

Afternoon slot

In the afternoon slot, an absolutely huge Iron Bowl will test your devotion to the Vols. There are a couple of other coaching candidates to watch as well, but there’s too much competition to really pay much attention to them unless you want to DVR them.

Evening slot

The evening period gives you a chance to root for Texas A&M to not fire their coach and present Tennessee with additional competition on the coaching carousel. Mike Leach is also in action.

Complete college football TV schedule for Week 13

And here’s the complete football schedule for the week, paginated and searchable!

DATE TIME TV AWAY TEAM HOME TEAM
Tuesday 7:00 PM ESPN3 Bowling Green Eastern Michigan
Tuesday 7:00 PM ESPNU Kent State Akron
Tuesday 7:00 PM ESPN3 Miami, OH Ball State
Wednesday 12:00 PM ESPN2 Tennessee Basketball Purdue
Thursday 12:30/7:00 TBD Tennessee Basketball Villanova/WKU
Thursday 7:30 PM ESPN Ole Miss (16) Mississippi State
Friday TBD TBD Tennessee Basketball TBD
Friday 11:30 AM ESPNU Western Michigan Toledo
Friday 12:00 PM ABC (3) Miami, FL Pittsburgh
Friday 12:00 PM FS1 Baylor (12) TCU
Friday 12:00 PM ESPN Navy Houston
Friday 12:00 PM CBSSN NIU Central Michigan
Friday 1:00 PM ESPN3 Ohio Buffalo
Friday 2:30 PM CBS Missouri Arkansas
Friday 3:30 PM CBSSN New Mexico San Diego State
Friday 3:30 PM ABC USF (15) UCF
Friday 4:00 PM FS1 Iowa Nebraska
Friday 4:00 PM ESPN3 Texas State Troy
Friday 7:00 PM beIN SPORTS WKU FIU
Friday 8:00 PM FOX Texas Tech Texas
Friday 8:00 PM ESPN Virginia Tech Virginia
Friday 10:30 PM FS1 California UCLA
Saturday 12:00 PM ABC (7) Georgia Georgia Tech
Saturday 12:00 PM FOX (9) Ohio State (24) Michigan
Saturday 12:00 PM ESPNU East Carolina (21) Memphis
Saturday 12:00 PM ESPN Florida State Florida
Saturday 12:00 PM ESPN2 Indiana Purdue
Saturday 12:00 PM FS1 Kansas (13) Oklahoma State
Saturday 12:00 PM SECN Louisville Kentucky
Saturday 12:00 PM CBSSN Tulane SMU
Saturday 12:00 PM ESPNews UConn Cincinnati
Saturday 12:20 PM ACCN Boston College Syracuse
Saturday 12:30 PM RSN Duke Wake Forest
Saturday 1:00 PM ESPN3 North Texas Rice
Saturday 1:00 PM CUSA.TV UTEP UAB
Saturday 2:00 PM ESPN3 Appalachian State Georgia State
Saturday 2:00 PM Stadium Florida Atlantic Charlotte
Saturday 2:30 PM Stadium Southern Miss Marshall
Saturday 3:00 PM ESPN3 Arkansas State ULM
Saturday 3:00 PM ESPN3 Old Dominion Middle Tennessee
Saturday 3:00 PM ATTSNRM UNLV Nevada
Saturday 3:30 PM CBS (1) Alabama (6) Auburn
Saturday 3:30 PM BTN (10) Penn State Maryland
Saturday 3:30 PM CBSSN (25) Boise State Fresno State
Saturday 3:30 PM ABC (5) Wisconsin Minnesota
Saturday 3:30 PM ESPN2 Iowa State Kansas State
Saturday 3:30 PM ESPNU North Carolina (19) NC State
Saturday 3:45 PM ESPN West Virginia (4) Oklahoma
Saturday 4:00 PM FOX (17) Michigan State Rutgers
Saturday 4:00 PM FS1 (23) Northwestern Illinois
Saturday 4:00 PM ESPN3 Idaho New Mexico State
Saturday 4:00 PM ESPNews Temple Tulsa
Saturday 4:00 PM SECN Vanderbilt Tennessee
Saturday 4:30 PM Pac-12N Arizona Arizona State
Saturday 5:00 PM ESPN3 Georgia Southern UL Lafayette
Saturday 5:00 PM ESPN3 Wyoming San Jose State
Saturday 7:00 PM ESPN2 Oregon State Oregon
Saturday 7:30 PM ESPN (2) Clemson South Carolina
Saturday 7:30 PM SECN Texas A&M (20) LSU
Saturday 7:30 PM ESPNU UTSA Louisiana Tech
Saturday 8:00 PM FOX (14) Washington State (18) Washington
Saturday 8:00 PM ABC (8) Notre Dame (22) Stanford
Saturday 9:00 PM CBSSN BYU Hawaii
Saturday 10:00 PM FS1 Colorado Utah
Saturday 10:15 PM ESPN2 Utah State Air Force

On fan expectations if it’s not Jon Gruden

I have no idea who Tennessee’s next coach is going to be, and no idea what percentage is reasonable to believe on Jon Gruden. Things seem to be further down the road with Gruden than they were five years ago, but that doesn’t mean that road is going somewhere. Was there a 3% chance in 2012, and now there’s a 15% chance? That’s five times more likely this time around…and still far more likely than not the answer is no.

So, what if the answer is no?

There seems to be a narrative developing that the Tennessee fan base is so infatuated with Gruden, we will accept no substitutes. In a conversation on the Sports Source yesterday, Jimmy Hyams said, “A very prominent booster told me recently that two coaches that you might think would be on the list said they’re not interested, because of all this uproar.”

You can choose your level of obsession in this search. As no one seems to know exactly what John Currie is thinking anyway, you can wait it out or check in at the end of each day. Or you can burn through an F5 button or two chasing down every last rumor. But no matter how passionately one chooses to follow the #Grumors, and no matter how crazy they may get (and it doesn’t get much crazier than Calhounsgate), a couple of things should ultimately make 2017’s uproar much more sensible.

One, the perception five years ago was that Tennessee didn’t make a full effort to land Gruden. I don’t know much reality this perception truly represents, but the idea that Gruden would have commanded more money than Tennessee was willing to pay at the time was prevalent. The November 2012 report from Stephen Hargis at the Chattanooga Times-Free Press specifically mentioned pay for Gruden’s potential staff as a point of contention.

Other journalists disputed that story, and we’ve seen something similar this year. John Brice and GoVols247’s Grant Ramey reported the Vols flew to Tampa last week to pitch to Gruden again. This story too has been disputed. But a report like this can go a long way in the perception of Tennessee’s search, even if John Currie is introducing someone else at a press conferene. Whatever it’s worth, the tone on Tennessee message boards this week has also shifted from five years ago. There is a much greater sense that if the Vols are making the pitch, this time they’re making it knowing the cost. That if Jon Gruden chooses to stay in the NFL or on Monday Night Football, it won’t be because of anything Tennessee didn’t do.

And hey, it’s no sin to say no. If Gruden doesn’t want to coach in college, okay. You can’t make the man do something he doesn’t want to do.

This is where the other significant difference from five years ago would come in:  Dave Hart introduced Butch Jones after reportedly missing out on Charlie Strong at the last minute. On the morning of December 5, Charlie Strong was the front-runner. On the evening of December 5, Strong stayed at Louisville. And on the evening of December 6, it became clear Butch Jones would get the offer from Tennessee.

Again, so much of this is perception. Charlie Strong was at Louisville, had been at Florida as defensive coordinator, and was a popular choice among Tennessee fans. Butch Jones was at Cincinnati, had been at Central Michigan, and was viewed as a hurried reactionary move when the Vols lost out on Strong.

Whenever people make a big deal about Dave Hart being asked about Jon Gruden at Butch’s first press conference, I always wonder if the same questions would have been raised if Hart was introducing Strong. Even with the perception that the Vols didn’t fully pursue Gruden, Strong would have been an A hire; he got one of the most coveted jobs in football a year later. Butch Jones felt like having to settle, and the worst way to settle is to not know for sure if you could’ve had the one you really wanted.

This time, I think we’ll feel like we took our shot at Gruden. And this time, Tennessee has a better chance to make a better hire that isn’t him.

It doesn’t have to be from that conference champion proven winners list (Jimbo Fisher, Gary Patterson, Chris Petersen, etc.), the guys you call just in case. If John Currie is introducing Dan Mullen next week? That’s a win for Tennessee. If Scott Frost can somehow be pulled from Nebraska? That’s a W. Or perhaps John Currie has something else up his sleeve. There are good hires out there, and if Tennessee made a serious pitch at Gruden’s level, it gives one confidence in this administration to do the same elsewhere.

There is, of course, a less proven group of names further down your hot board from which a good coach may emerge. But there are simply more questions with this group, which will mean more questions for John Currie and the administration if the search gets this far down the list. Especially if Chip Kelly is at Florida.

But the uproar is understandable for a program that wants to win. For a decade, Vol fans have been left with no other choice but patience. Alabama went 10 years between Stallings and Saban, but Mike DuBose won the SEC in 1999 and Mike Shula won 10 games in 2005. Notre Dame went 13 years between Holtz and Kelly, but Ty Willingham won 10 games in 2002 and Charlie Weis made back-to-back BCS bowls his first two years. Other proud programs had brief peaks in otherwise lengthy valleys. In 10 years, Tennessee has done no better than a pair of 9-4’s under Butch Jones that both felt disappointing because they were. Tennessee fans are tired of being asked to be patient, which is a big part of Gruden’s allure. Gruden feels like winning today! But I believe there are other good hires out there to make us believe we will be a winner tomorrow.

I believe the uproar will also ultimately subside, not because the Vols hire Gruden, but because fans can believe the Vols did their due diligence and will put themselves in position to make a good hire. Every fan base has its unhealthy edges; coaching search + message boards + Twitter + 10 years isn’t the formula for our best selves.

But I also believe all this uproar isn’t the best way you judge a fan base; it’s selling 96,000 tickets and having many of those thousands cheer in the rain for a winless SEC team at the end of a forgettable season. That’s Tennessee. That’s a fan base a good coach will discover is a blessing, not a curse.

And I’m hopeful that’s exactly what Tennessee will get.

 

 

 

 

 

C_hawkfan wins Week 12 of the Gameday on Rocky Top Pick ‘Em Contest

Congratulations to C_hawkfan, who went 16-4 and beat me by a single confidence point with 186. (And I woulda gotten away with it, too, if it weren’t for those crazy kids!) For finishing first in this week’s Gameday on Rocky Top Pick ‘Em Pool, C_hawkfan wins a Gameday on Rocky Top t-shirt from our custom tee store, Web Community Tees.

Gameday on Rocky Top Logo Tee

C_hawkfan, watch for a message from me on how to get your tee.

Birdjam remains in the lead in the overall standings.

Here are the full results for this week:.

Rank Selection Name W-L Pts Tie Breaker Game (30-10)
1 C_hawkfan 16-4 186 28-15
2 Joel @ GRT 14-6 185 31-19
3 Bulldog 85 16-4 183 35-20
4 RandyH112 15-5 182 28-13
5 edgarmsmith 16-4 181 34-12**
5 Displaced_Vol_Fan 16-4 181 34-13
7 GeorgeMonkey 15-5 178 31-14**
7 Jahiegel 16-4 178 28-17
7 LuckyGuess 14-6 178 37-10
10 jfarrar90 14-6 177 31-20
11 boro wvvol 15-5 176 35-14**
11 PrideofTheSouthlandFan 15-5 176 31-20
13 rollervol 15-5 175 16-17
14 spartans100 14-6 174 28-14**
14 birdjam 14-6 174 31-17
14 joeb_1 15-5 174 34-24
14 UNDirish60 15-5 174 17-45
18 daetilus 15-5 172 27-13**
18 PAVolFan 14-6 172 35-10
18 Volfan2002 15-5 172 28-24
21 Anaconda 14-6 171 26-20**
21 mariettavol 14-6 171 32-25
21 BZACHARY 16-4 171 0-0
24 rsbrooks25 13-7 169 28-12**
24 ThePowerT 13-7 169 27-21
26 Jaywine 16-4 166 30-16
27 HUTCH 15-5 164 34-6
28 ctull 15-5 163 34-9**
28 alanmar 15-5 163 34-27
30 crafdog 14-6 162 0-0
31 TNann 13-7 160 30-12**
31 mmmjtx 15-5 160 38-20
31 ltvol99 15-5 160 38-21
31 ga26engr 14-6 160 42-17
35 mmb61 15-5 159 34-7
36 Raven17 8-Dec 158 21-24
37 DinnerJacket 14-6 157 27-17**
37 vols95 14-6 157 31-17
37 patmd 14-6 157 50-13
40 the-albatross 8-Dec 156 32-15
41 ddayvolsfan 15-5 153 24-10
42 Gman15 14-6 148 41-20
43 Techboy 14-6 144 0-0
44 Harley 14-6 143 38-17**
44 1hoss2 13-7 143 0-0
46 Dylan pickle 13-7 140 57-3
47 Timbuktu126 9-Nov 130 14-7
48 CajunVol 0-20 129 0-0**
48 jeremy.waldroop 0-20 129 0-0**
48 ChuckieTVol 0-20 129 0-0**
48 Knottfair 0-20 129 -
48 Will Shelton 0-20 129 -
48 tpi 0-20 129 -
48 aquasox 0-20 129 -
48 jstorie1 0-20 129 -
48 TennVol95 in 3D! 0-20 129 -
48 mobilevol 0-20 129 -
48 sncdaisy 0-20 129 -
48 BritishVol 0-20 129 -
48 Drew 0-20 129 -
48 901Vol 0-20 129 -
48 Jrstep 0-20 129 -
48 The Alyas Greys 0-20 129 -
48 PensacolaVolFan 0-20 129 -
48 EVOL 0-20 129 -
48 bking 0-20 129 -
48 dgibbs 0-20 129 -
48 chuckiepoo 0-20 129 -
48 CNMcCreary 0-20 129 -
48 IBleedVolOrange 0-20 129 -
48 VandyVol 0-20 129 -
48 wreckvol 0-20 129 -
48 rockytopinky 0-20 129 -
48 OriginalVol1814 0-20 129 -
48 rockhopper78 0-20 129 -
48 KeepsCornInAJar 0-20 129 -
48 PaVol 0-20 129 -
48 T dog 0-20 129 -
48 kmchugh 0-20 129 -
48 waltsspac 0-20 129 -
48 waitwhereami 0-20 129 -
48 Sam 0-20 129 -
48 over754ut 0-20 129 -
48 tdrb42 0-20 129 -
48 wedflatrock 0-20 129 -
48 biologydropout 0-20 129 -
48 Phonies 0-20 129 -
48 utkjmitch 0-20 129 -
48 SouthernDCist 0-20 129 -
48 rudydog 0-20 129 -
48 MeytonPanning 0-20 129 -
48 Rossboro 0-20 129 -
48 DCVFL 0-20 129 -
48 RichVols 0-20 129 -
48 VillaVol 0-20 129 -
48 ed75 0-20 129 -
48 Volboy 0-20 129 -
48 BlountVols 0-20 129 -
48 jobliner 0-20 129 -
48 memphispete 0-20 129 -

 

And here are the current overall standings after Week 12:

Rank Selection Name W-L Pts
1 birdjam 188-52 2160
2 joeb_1 182-58 2139
3 GeorgeMonkey 178-62 2123
4 UNDirish60 185-55 2122
5 C_hawkfan 184-56 2120
5 PAVolFan 182-58 2120
7 jfarrar90 183-57 2116
8 Volfan2002 181-59 2115
9 Jahiegel 183-57 2110
10 spartans100 188-52 2108
11 PrideofTheSouthlandFan 188-52 2107
12 Displaced_Vol_Fan 176-64 2103
13 Phonies 173-67 2088
14 Anaconda 170-70 2087
15 Knottfair 168-72 2079
16 mariettavol 181-59 2068
17 ChuckieTVol 167-73 2062
18 rsbrooks25 182-58 2059
19 BZACHARY 179-61 2058
20 Joel @ GRT 184-56 2054
21 mmmjtx 185-55 2049
22 ThePowerT 168-72 2046
23 Raven17 171-69 2024
24 edgarmsmith 181-59 2021
25 mmb61 177-63 2006
26 LuckyGuess 165-75 1974
27 vols95 168-72 1949
28 alanmar 184-56 1944
29 DinnerJacket 174-66 1942
30 ctull 173-67 1927
30 CajunVol 165-75 1927
32 tpi 167-73 1907
33 boro wvvol 162-78 1904
34 Gman15 170-70 1896
35 daetilus 156-84 1834
36 jeremy.waldroop 150-90 1827
37 TNann 171-69 1797
38 ltvol99 150-90 1773
39 ga26engr 163-77 1767
40 Bulldog 85 158-82 1764
41 crafdog 167-73 1756
42 HUTCH 163-77 1754
43 tdrb42 141-99 1732
44 ddayvolsfan 160-80 1717
45 waltsspac 141-99 1697
45 chuckiepoo 125-115 1697
47 bking 137-103 1689
48 patmd 163-77 1679
49 Drew 133-107 1668
50 Sam 128-112 1611
51 Jrstep 137-103 1605
52 rollervol 148-92 1602
52 Rossboro 115-125 1602
54 1hoss2 144-96 1583
55 OriginalVol1814 107-133 1551
56 rockhopper78 107-133 1542
57 ed75 114-126 1527
58 Techboy 145-95 1524
59 BlountVols 106-134 1506
60 RandyH112 140-100 1484
61 Timbuktu126 138-102 1478
62 Jaywine 124-116 1465
63 Harley 139-101 1436
64 IBleedVolOrange 116-124 1434
65 VillaVol 89-151 1424
66 PensacolaVolFan 125-115 1404
67 the-albatross 116-124 1378
68 Dylan pickle 129-111 1349
69 dgibbs 77-163 1311
70 VandyVol 88-152 1305
71 RichVols 80-160 1304
72 utkjmitch 76-164 1280
72 mobilevol 86-154 1280
74 Volboy 73-167 1253
75 jstorie1 72-168 1236
76 TennVol95 in 3D! 71-169 1203
77 waitwhereami 61-179 1198
78 wreckvol 60-180 1190
79 KeepsCornInAJar 61-179 1188
80 aquasox 72-168 1156
81 Will Shelton 52-188 1153
82 biologydropout 47-193 1147
83 SouthernDCist 57-183 1131
84 EVOL 42-198 1127
85 MeytonPanning 55-185 1126
86 rudydog 56-184 1121
87 kmchugh 31-209 1064
88 BritishVol 39-201 1063
89 CNMcCreary 50-190 1049
90 rockytopinky 56-184 1029
91 jobliner 38-202 1024
92 sncdaisy 40-200 1015
93 over754ut 29-211 993
94 DCVFL 21-219 938
95 memphispete 18-222 929
96 901Vol 18-222 926
97 T dog 0-240 860
97 wedflatrock 0-240 860
99 The Alyas Greys 15-225 807
100 PaVol 5-235 738