What are we cheering for?

Tennessee and Greg Schiano are reportedly in end stage contract talks for the Ohio State defensive coordinator to become the next coach in Knoxville. It may be finalized by the time I finish typing this post.

Schiano’s name came up here and there in this search, but no one’s name earned much real traction due to the secrecy athletic director John Currie operated with. We mentioned Schiano as a name generating some level of interest early on, as his profile generated the third-most clicks on our coaching hot board. As I noted at the time, his on-field record at Rutgers is noteworthy, as has been the performance of Ohio State’s defense. Later that same week I mentioned him as a dark horse candidate on Sports 180 (from November 17), again based on pageviews we were seeing.

In both places, we questioned the fit. I noted on the radio that I couldn’t find anyone who thought Schiano coming to Tennessee was a good idea.

In hindsight, I wish I had been more direct and less interested in being nice. And I think many of us who put our fingers to the keyboard about Tennessee simply didn’t spend more time on Schiano because we never really thought it would happen.

The questions about Schiano’s hire are not about his won/loss record. He was clearly a good coach at Rutgers and is a good defensive coordinator now at Ohio State, no matter how many games he won or lost in the NFL with Tampa Bay.

The questions about Schiano’s hire are not about Jon Gruden. No matter your level of belief in the #Grumors, if Jon Gruden married a cheerleader from Alabama instead and owned land in Tuscaloosa County, the uproar over Schiano would be and should be the same.

And the questions about Schiano’s hire are not about who else we could or could not get. Dan Mullen at Florida and Scott Frost at Nebraska is a tough blow. It would appear we swung and missed at bigger fish. We’ve already been underwhelmed with the announcement, twice. Many of us didn’t even know who Derek Dooley was a week before he was hired, and Butch Jones was met with something less than a lukewarm reception. Fans ultimately rallied around both well before their first game. This isn’t that.

You cannot hire Greg Schiano.

This is why, from The Washington Post in July of last year:

Former Penn State assistant coaches Greg Schiano and Tom Bradley knew that Jerry Sandusky, their colleague on Joe Paterno’s football staff, was acting improperly with young boys years before law-enforcement authorities were first notified, according to testimony from former Penn State assistant Mike McQueary that was unsealed Tuesday by a Philadelphia court.

Schiano denied the allegations. I don’t know who is telling what percentage of the truth. But the gravity of the situation cannot be ignored or glossed over at an introductory press conference.

Without the Penn State questions, there’s a laundry list of off-the-field questions from his tenure at Tampa Bay. With them, this is not a hire Tennessee can make. It would not be a hire Tennessee could make even if it wasn’t coming off a Title IX lawsuit.

As fans, we want to win. “Will it help us win?” is John Currie’s mission statement. But some things still do matter more than winning.

In college athletics, if not all sports, you cannot divorce the team from the coach. Rooting for your team ultimately and always means rooting for your coach. Even if you don’t like them personally or they’re not always the best fit, their success is almost always in the best interests of the program you care about so much.

Hiring Schiano with these allegations is not worth even the best case scenario on the field. Because he’s a good coach, he might win here. He might even win big. But you cannot divorce the coach from the team.

Cheering for your team means defending your coach, and good grief, I have defended Butch Jones. I have defended Derek Dooley. And I have defended Lane Kiffin. That’s quite a trio. I once argued Bruce Pearl should stay at Tennessee even if he received a show-cause up to a year. It’s what we do as fans, often to a fault.

I cannot defend Greg Schiano. I cannot minimize the allegations from Penn State. Tennessee fans will not.

This isn’t professional rabble-rousing. Negative reaction to Schiano isn’t the worst of the Tennessee fan base. It’s the better judgment of Tennessee’s human beings.

Tennessee has been trying to get this right for ten years. At the end of those ten years, we just finished the worst season in school history, winless in the SEC for the first time in the history of the league. We know disappointment and we know impatience better than most. Both of them, at times, bring out the worst in a fan base like ours.

And make no mistake:  today is not helpful for the program even if Schiano and the Vols ultimately and wisely walk away. John Currie’s power will have eroded, the list of those interested in this job will shrink, and the negotiating power will shift hard to the coach and agent. We are likely to end up further down the list with a bigger buyout.

But I will lose for ten more years while defending a coach I can believe in with a clear conscience before will-it-help-us-winning-it with Greg Schiano.

I have loved Tennessee all my life. And I believe in Tennessee, and believe it is bigger than even its athletic director. Even if today has ensured a better tomorrow is a few steps further away, I am hopeful Tennessee will come about that tomorrow in a better way.

Go Vols.

 

Texas A&M enters the fray, fires Kevin Sumlin

Add Texas A&M to the 2017 coaching carousel, as they have fired Kevin Sumlin after six seasons. They join Tennessee, Florida, Ole Miss (presumably), and Arkansas as SEC teams in the market for a new head coach. Sumlin had a 51-26 overall record at A&M, but had gone 8-5 each of the past three seasons and finished the regular season this year at 7-5.

Arkansas fired Bret Bielema this weekend, as well, as Bielema was coming off the field after a 48-45 loss to Missouri. That not only adds two more coaching vacancies in the SEC, it adds two more coaches to the candidate pool.

Initial reaction to unofficial Schiano report includes a decommit and attention from state representatives

Tennessee hiring Greg Schiano as its next head coach is still an unofficial report at this time, but there has already been extreme reaction.

Former Vols commit 4-star cornerback Jaycee Horn has decommitted:

At least two Tennessee state reps have also weighed in on the matter, including Jeremy Faison:


Jason Zachary has gone one step further and actually tried to get John Currie’s attention, presumably via something other than social media:

As I said, this is all reaction to an as-yet unofficial report. If the administration was floating this as a trial balloon, I think they have their answer.

Report: Florida is finalizing a deal with Dan Mullen

Right on the heels of the (as yet unofficial) report that Tennessee is finalizing a deal with Greg Schiano to be its next head football coach, we now get word that Florida is finalizing a deal with Dan Mullen to become theirs.

The Tennessee fan base is melting down, and honestly, I don’t have anything to tell them. If the Schiano deal gets done and if social media is to be believed, then there will apparently be a lot fewer Vols fans in the world tomorrow morning.

 

Report: Tennessee finalizing deal to hire Greg Schiano

USA Today’s Dan Wolken is reporting that Tennessee is finalizing a deal to make Ohio State defensive coordinator Greg Schiano its next head coach. Schiano apparently became the focus of the search in part due to Dan Mullen “stalling with the Vols in an attempt to wait and see what happens with the opening at Florida.”

With names like Dan Mullen, Matt Campbell, Mike Leach, and Chris Petersen still floating around as late as yesterday, fans are in an uproar, some for the wrong reasons and some for the right ones.

As of the time of this post, it is not yet official, but VolQuest has confirmed the USA Today report that Tennessee is finalizing a deal for Schiano.

How are you feeling about this?

Phonies wins Week 13 of the Gameday on Rocky Top Pick ‘Em Contest

Congratulations to Phonies, who, during a tough week for everyone, finished first by going 15-5 with 159 confidence points. For getting first place in this week’s Gameday on Rocky Top Pick ‘Em Pool, Phonies wins an authentic Gameday on Rocky Top t-shirt from our custom tee store, Web Community Tees.

Gameday on Rocky Top Logo Tee

Phonies, watch for a message from me on how to get your tee.

Birdjam has a somewhat comfortable lead in the overall standings.

Here are the full results for this week:.

Rank Selection Name W-L Pts Tie Breaker Game (42-24)
1 Phonies 15-5 159 20-23
2 C_hawkfan 12-8 155 22-26**
2 ltvol99 13-7 155 20-24
4 mmb61 14-6 153 27-35**
4 rsbrooks25 14-6 153 21-24
6 mmmjtx 12-8 150 17-20
7 Jrstep 14-6 149 12-17
8 Anaconda 13-7 148 22-26
9 birdjam 13-7 147 14-23**
9 PAVolFan 13-7 147 14-17
11 Jahiegel 12-8 146 24-27
12 UNDirish60 13-7 145 27-31**
12 joeb_1 13-7 145 23-27
14 jfarrar90 13-7 144 21-27
15 Volfan2002 12-8 143 17-24**
15 Bulldog 85 12-8 143 17-20
17 spartans100 14-6 142 21-24**
17 GeorgeMonkey 12-8 142 21-24
17 PrideofTheSouthlandFan 11-9 142 20-24
17 ThePowerT 12-8 142 13-24
17 tpi 13-7 142 0-0
22 Gman15 13-7 137 24-37**
22 Harley 14-6 137 17-27
24 Jaywine 14-6 136 23-24
25 BZACHARY 13-7 135 0-0
26 PensacolaVolFan 13-7 134 17-24**
26 daetilus 13-7 134 13-21
28 Joel @ GRT 13-7 133 20-24
29 ddayvolsfan 12-8 131 27-30
30 Displaced_Vol_Fan 10-10 129 22-26
31 LuckyGuess 11-9 128 23-24
32 the-albatross 11-9 127 16-24
33 Dylan pickle 12-8 126 20-10
34 mariettavol 12-8 125 24-34**
34 vols95 11-9 125 24-31
36 ctull 12-8 124 17-20
37 HUTCH 13-7 123 24-10
38 crafdog 12-8 122 24-27
39 boro wvvol 11-9 121 21-28
40 rollervol 13-7 117 16-17
41 DinnerJacket 10-10 114 13-20
42 patmd 12-8 113 24-10
43 Raven17 8-12 105 14-17
44 Techboy 10-10 104 0-0
45 ga26engr 10-10 103 24-32
46 Timbuktu126 8-12 96 17-23
47 1hoss2 10-10 95 0-0
48 CajunVol 11-9 87 9-17
49 TNann 0-20 86 -
49 Knottfair 0-20 86 -
49 Will Shelton 0-20 86 -
49 aquasox 0-20 86 -
49 jstorie1 0-20 86 -
49 TennVol95 in 3D! 0-20 86 -
49 mobilevol 0-20 86 -
49 sncdaisy 0-20 86 -
49 edgarmsmith 0-20 86 -
49 BritishVol 0-20 86 -
49 Drew 0-20 86 -
49 901Vol 0-20 86 -
49 The Alyas Greys 0-20 86 -
49 RandyH112 0-20 86 -
49 EVOL 0-20 86 -
49 bking 0-20 86 -
49 dgibbs 0-20 86 -
49 chuckiepoo 0-20 86 -
49 CNMcCreary 0-20 86 -
49 IBleedVolOrange 0-20 86 -
49 VandyVol 0-20 86 -
49 wreckvol 0-20 86 -
49 rockytopinky 0-20 86 -
49 OriginalVol1814 0-20 86 -
49 rockhopper78 0-20 86 -
49 jeremy.waldroop 0-20 86 -
49 KeepsCornInAJar 0-20 86 -
49 PaVol 0-20 86 -
49 T dog 0-20 86 -
49 kmchugh 0-20 86 -
49 waltsspac 0-20 86 -
49 waitwhereami 0-20 86 -
49 Sam 0-20 86 -
49 over754ut 0-20 86 -
49 tdrb42 0-20 86 -
49 wedflatrock 0-20 86 -
49 biologydropout 0-20 86 -
49 utkjmitch 0-20 86 -
49 SouthernDCist 0-20 86 -
49 rudydog 0-20 86 -
49 MeytonPanning 0-20 86 -
49 Rossboro 0-20 86 -
49 DCVFL 0-20 86 -
49 alanmar 0-20 86 -
49 RichVols 0-20 86 -
49 VillaVol 0-20 86 -
49 ed75 0-20 86 -
49 Volboy 0-20 86 -
49 BlountVols 0-20 86 -
49 jobliner 0-20 86 -
49 ChuckieTVol 0-20 86 -
49 memphispete 0-20 86 -

 

And here are the current overall standings after Week 13:

Rank Selection Name W-L Pts
1 birdjam 201-59 2307
2 joeb_1 195-65 2284
3 C_hawkfan 196-64 2275
4 UNDirish60 198-62 2267
4 PAVolFan 195-65 2267
6 GeorgeMonkey 190-70 2265
7 jfarrar90 196-64 2260
8 Volfan2002 193-67 2258
9 Jahiegel 195-65 2256
10 spartans100 202-58 2250
11 PrideofTheSouthlandFan 199-61 2249
12 Phonies 188-72 2247
13 Anaconda 183-77 2235
14 Displaced_Vol_Fan 186-74 2232
15 rsbrooks25 196-64 2212
16 mmmjtx 197-63 2199
17 mariettavol 193-67 2193
17 BZACHARY 192-68 2193
19 ThePowerT 180-80 2188
20 Joel @ GRT 197-63 2187
21 Knottfair 168-92 2165
22 mmb61 191-69 2159
23 ChuckieTVol 167-93 2148
24 Raven17 179-81 2129
25 edgarmsmith 181-79 2107
26 LuckyGuess 176-84 2102
27 vols95 179-81 2074
28 DinnerJacket 184-76 2056
29 ctull 185-75 2051
30 tpi 180-80 2049
31 Gman15 183-77 2033
32 alanmar 184-76 2030
33 boro wvvol 173-87 2025
34 CajunVol 176-84 2014
35 daetilus 169-91 1968
36 ltvol99 163-97 1928
37 jeremy.waldroop 150-110 1913
38 Bulldog 85 170-90 1907
39 TNann 171-89 1883
40 crafdog 179-81 1878
41 HUTCH 176-84 1877
42 ga26engr 173-87 1870
43 ddayvolsfan 172-88 1848
44 tdrb42 141-119 1818
45 patmd 175-85 1792
46 chuckiepoo 125-135 1783
46 waltsspac 141-119 1783
48 bking 137-123 1775
49 Jrstep 151-109 1754
49 Drew 133-127 1754
51 rollervol 161-99 1719
52 Sam 128-132 1697
53 Rossboro 115-145 1688
54 1hoss2 154-106 1678
55 OriginalVol1814 107-153 1637
56 Techboy 155-105 1628
56 rockhopper78 107-153 1628
58 ed75 114-146 1613
59 Jaywine 138-122 1601
60 BlountVols 106-154 1592
61 Timbuktu126 146-114 1574
62 Harley 153-107 1573
63 RandyH112 140-120 1570
64 PensacolaVolFan 138-122 1538
65 IBleedVolOrange 116-144 1520
66 VillaVol 89-171 1510
67 the-albatross 127-133 1505
68 Dylan pickle 141-119 1475
69 dgibbs 77-183 1397
70 VandyVol 88-172 1391
71 RichVols 80-180 1390
72 utkjmitch 76-184 1366
72 mobilevol 86-174 1366
74 Volboy 73-187 1339
75 jstorie1 72-188 1322
76 TennVol95 in 3D! 71-189 1289
77 waitwhereami 61-199 1284
78 wreckvol 60-200 1276
79 KeepsCornInAJar 61-199 1274
80 aquasox 72-188 1242
81 Will Shelton 52-208 1239
82 biologydropout 47-213 1233
83 SouthernDCist 57-203 1217
84 EVOL 42-218 1213
85 MeytonPanning 55-205 1212
86 rudydog 56-204 1207
87 kmchugh 31-229 1150
88 BritishVol 39-221 1149
89 CNMcCreary 50-210 1135
90 rockytopinky 56-204 1115
91 jobliner 38-222 1110
92 sncdaisy 40-220 1101
93 over754ut 29-231 1079
94 DCVFL 21-239 1024
95 memphispete 18-242 1015
96 901Vol 18-242 1012
97 T dog 0-260 946
97 wedflatrock 0-260 946
99 The Alyas Greys 15-245 893
100 PaVol 5-255 824

Marietta Vol takes first place in the 2017 GRT Guessing Game

Mushrooms, bananas, bolts, and blue shells all have a say in the final round of the 2017 Gameday on Rocky Top Guessing Game, but skill wins out in the end.

Thanks to everyone for playing this season. Play by play below.

Top 10 as of the end of last week

Marietta Vol 164
Raven17 161
Sam 144
Fatso 124
LTVol99 121
Dave Strunk 120
RandyH 119
Josh Farrar 116
cscott95 112
Daetilus 109

 

Round 1

Q: Which team hits 20 points first? (20-40 points)

A: Vanderbilt (20 points)

Due to Evan’s bolt in the last round last week, nobody but him had a shot at this one. And he missed it. No points for nobody!

Mushrooms: Raven17 and itsNickJ

Bananas: Marietta Vol and me, picking up right where I left off last week

Blue shells and bolts: The blue shell moves, and is now within one spot of the target. Who is it? Raven17, who just moved into the lead thanks to her mushroom and Marietta Vol’s banana. Also, MitchellK draws a thunderbolt.

Top 10 after Rounds 1:

Raven17 166
Marietta Vol 159
Sam 144
Fatso 124
LTVol99 121
Dave Strunk 120
RandyH 119
Josh Farrar 116
cscott95 112
Daetilus 109

 

Round 2

Q: Who wins and by how much? (10-30 points)

A: Vanderbilt, by 8 or more (18)

Due to MitchellK’s bolt last round, everybody’s disqualified from this question. No matter. Nobody got it right anyway.

Mushrooms: LTVol99 and Josh Farrar

Bananas: MitchellK and yes, me, again

Blue shells and bolts: The blue shell blows up Raven17, putting Marietta Vol back into the lead. ItsNickJ throws another blue shell, but it’s harmless because there is no time for it to reach the front now.

Top 10 after Round 2:

Marietta Vol 159
Raven17 156
Sam 144
LTVol99 126
Fatso 124
Josh Farrar 121
Dave Strunk 120
RandyH 119
cscott95 112
Daetilus 109

 

Round 3

Q: Which is greater, Vanderbilt’s rushing yards or Vanderbilt’s passing yards? (20 points)

A: Vanderbilt’s passing yards (20 points) (283 – 246)

Four players get this right, including the leader, Marietta Vol.

Mushrooms: Fatso and Josh Farrar

Bananas: Daetilus and Josh Farrar

Blue shells and bolts: Harmless blue shell is harmless, and Marietta Vol coasts across the finish line.

Final Top 10:

Marietta Vol 179
Raven17 156
Sam 144
Fatso 129
LTVol99 126
Daetilus 124
Josh Farrar 121
Dave Strunk 120
RandyH 119
cscott95 112
Harley 112

 

Full table

Player Prior Prior Specials R1 R1 Sub R1 Specials R1 Total R2 R2 Sub R2 Specials R2 Total R3 R3 Sub R3 Specials R3 Total
Marietta Vol 164 164 -5 159 159 159 20 179 179
Raven17 161 161 5 166 166 -10 156 156 156
Sam 144 144 144 144 144 144 144
Fatso 124 124 124 124 124 124 5 129
LTVol99 121 121 121 121 5 126 126 126
Daetilus 109 109 109 109 109 20 129 -5 124
Josh Farrar 116 116 116 116 5 121 121 0 121
Dave Strunk 120 120 120 120 120 120 120
RandyH 119 119 119 119
cscott95 112 112 112 112 112 112 112
Harley 92 92 92 92 92 20 112 112
Evan 104 BOLT 104 104 104 104 104 104
Jayyyy 104 104 104 104
MitchellK 101 101 BOLT 101 101 -5 96 96 96
Joel Hollingsworth 82 82 -5 77 77 -5 72 20 92 92
Bulldog 85 80 80 80 80
TennVol95 78 78 78 78
Displaced_Vol_Fan 67 67 67 67 67 67 67
Will Shelton 66 66 66 66
KD 60 60 60 60
PaVol 32 32 32 32
Oleg Zeltser 28 28 28 28
Phil 28 28 28 28
Alyas Grey 26 26 26 26
RockyTopinKY 26 26 26 26
WHODEYVOLS 25 25 25 25
vfl_mks 22 22 22 22
Packtar 13 13 13 13
PaVolFan 10 10 10 10
hoosiervol 9 9 9 9
NJ Vol 8 8 8 8
RockyTop5 8 8 8 8
charles matthews 7 7 7 7
GoVols365 6 6 6 6
nelsona350 6 6 6 6
itsNickJ 0 0 5 5 5 5 5 5
driskigm 5 5 5 5
Gr82baTNVol 5 5 5 5
Jason 5 5 5 5
Rockytop01 5 5 5 5
btpenley 4 4 4 4
wreckvol 4 4 4 4
Drew 3 3 3 3
BibleVol 1 1 1 1
Craig 1 1 1 1
Larry Hildebrand 1 1 1 1
utkjmitch 1 1 1 1
benvol 0 0 0 0
Donald Trump 0 0 0 0
GTZW 0 0 0 0
MediocreVOL 0 0 0 0
Volfaninsc 0 0 0 0

Vanderbilt 42, Tennessee 24: the sun goes down on a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day

Right now, somebody somewhere on Rocky Top is writing an obituary or, if they’re feeling especially kind, a eulogy for the 2017 Tennessee Volunteer football season. It seems appropriate, as the Vols have just concluded their first eight-loss season in the history of the program by losing to Vanderbilt, 42-24. Tennessee is winless in the SEC this season, and they’ve now lost to the Commodores four out of the last six years.

Yes, employing a death metaphor to describe the end of the season is quite tempting. But I’m going to go with something a little less drastic and final. I’m putting them to bed.

The 2017 season has been a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day, and this last chapter today was just more of the same.

Although the Tennessee offense looked good early, scoring two touchdowns on its first two drives, things fell apart from there. Vanderbilt was the worst rushing defense the Vols had seen all year, and Tennessee managed only 55 rushing yards against them. They were also the worst rushing offense the Vols had seen all year, and the Commodores rolled up 246 on them.

And Tennessee posted a mere 24 points against the worst scoring defense they’d faced all year.

It’s no wonder. About half the Vols’ roster was missing. They’d already fired their coach. They were down to their last five scholarship offensive linemen, and Jarrett Guarantano paid the price all night.

It was an awful nightcap to an awful season, and I absolutely hate it for the players who gave their all this year and got next to nothing in return.

So, I’m not putting any of those guys in the grave, even metaphorically.

But it is time to call it a day and hit the sack. Time to close our blinds and shut our eyes and turn off our minds so that we can tackle a new tomorrow with a new leader and a renewed mind. It is still beautiful here, even at sunset of a rotten day.

And may we all dream of a better, brighter tomorrow.

Go Vols.

Tennessee Vols vs. Vanderbilt Commodores TV time and channel, online game-watching party

The Tennessee Volunteers lay the 2017 football season to rest this afternoon with a game against the Vanderbilt Commodores. The game kicks off at 4:00 p.m. and will be televised on the SEC Network. It should be a good game, with each team looking for its first conference win of the season in its last chance.

Go Vols.

Chip Kelly reportedly to UCLA, Nebraska fires Mike Riley

News is breaking now that Chip Kelly has agreed to become the next UCLA head coach and that Nebraska has fired Mike Riley. For Tennessee fans, that means that Kelly is off the board, that the Florida Gators are still in competition with the Vols for a coach, and that both the Gators and the Vols are in competition with Nebraska for current UCF head coach Scott Frost.

Kelly had probably already been eliminated from consideration, as the latest reports were that he was choosing between Florida and UCLA. Some Vols fans had hoped to see him at Florida so they wouldn’t go after Frost, but now you have to think that Tennessee and Florida may be co-suitors of both Frost and Dan Mullen.

More as it develops.